KARL ein KARL
Dear Thomas Thank you very much have the major impetus to a debate, "You Is free improvisation in the end?" With your article in the Dissonance 111 given. It is held active, suffer from a bit short-sighted title, and unfortunately sometimes with unnecessary aggression.
So you have many encouraging reactions thrown some little immature or too simple thoughts of you have already been dealt with differentiated. We refer you to the substantive, detailed review of Miriam Sturzenegger. We are also pleased that it was above all for young people volunteered strongly - and rightly so. What more is needed to show how vibrant and relevant to this music and this scene?
We would now not go into the details of your article, but would prefer to discuss with you in person with a glass of wine about which you nostalgic impulses have moved to this article. A nostalgia of your article, while being inspired, but their origin is not articulated is.
We find it interesting that you take a beginning as a springboard for the ringing in of a doomsday. For us, the concert party of the septet in the WIM Zurich on 22 June 2010, a study that can be placed on these specific Septettformation freely improvised musical questions to the point. With no doubt pleasing result. But just a beginning: Now, a worker process is started, during which we will spend a lot of time to deepen the musical language of the Septet. As Joseph Haydn composed for the perfect Symphony No. 99 Symphony No. 100 even better, then the further probing depths Symphony No. 101: No end.
The end times, You mean the ability to sense of: Is it not more in the end of an old time, you nachtrauerst something as freely improvised music supposedly from a "counter-society" evolved out? Whatever time was not. The development of free jazz, free improvised music has always been considered by purely musical decisions in motion, but then had social consequences: Those who left a binding, socially accepted "grammar", fell into the so-called "underground".
But today the situation is completely different than in the sixties, seventies and eighties. It is in this sense, no "counter-society" more. The '68 generation has a democratic process triggered, the episodes had to Walls, which provided resistance and where we rubbed were leveled (the last 20 years). We can now each and every everything (with all its positive and negative connotations). Musically, that means "anything goes" that each and every relationship in itself aesthetically a clear position in order not to end up in vague. A problem that both composing and free improvising musicians and musicians know, because it is the fundamental issue of late post-modernism.
We certainly are pleased that today we can concentrate on the music without ideological baggage and must be without revolutionaries.
Cordial Grüsse KARL ein KARL
:
Peter K Frey
Michel Seigner
Alfred Zimmerlin
Monday, October 18, 2010
Sunday, October 17, 2010
Ground Blindmakingjute
MICHEL WINTSCH
For me, this story is not only improvised music.
What bothers these days, I think, is the unspeakable, the unmeasurable, the innetiquetable, the subjective, the unrestrained, non-profitable.
There are people out there who spend most of their time in offices, sifting through records, with a very comfortable salary - without even bothering to actually study their subjects (just read the The article by Mr. Meyer for yourself) - which are supposed to work for culture. Serve culture.
I like the word culture. And if someone, either an individual or an institution decides to deal with culture, it had better be a gardener.
With humility and patience that entails.
it watering the garden, he takes care that is diversified, there ale loam, cycles, fallow, ashes, rot itself - which also usually grow the pretty roses. A perennial crop, requires a rich diversity of the corners of shadow and light.
Today, we want the effective, the cost of the exporter, the identity! (I do not think decide its identity, I think we can only observe it, pay it, and possibly cultivate ...)
Look out there, go walking in the nearby mountains, you see these areas of forests planted Norway spruce, which grow fast, straight, and make beautiful boards (just strong enough for a coffin cheap) and it is true, the grower is big - in the short term.
Go ahead and see that nothing grows in the undergrowth, most ferns, more foam, more animals ... straight trunks with their head held upright who seek the light-up. I feel
it is there. Watered which relates, that shines with all the risks of mono-culture: the land weakens and dies suddenly guardian, by wanting control, wanting success and money, and fast .
Improvised music (not only) is probably one of those areas of control, an area of relief, contradictions, such as slowness of dazzling, sometimes wandering, but an area essential to the soil at the entire garden. But this very frightening our bureaucrats, and I fear that ignorance of basic gardening - I hope it's not a deliberate obscurantism - Of our beloved politico-cultural and "journalists" in their pay, do send us all straight into the wall.
Michel Wintsch
For me, this story is not only improvised music.
What bothers these days, I think, is the unspeakable, the unmeasurable, the innetiquetable, the subjective, the unrestrained, non-profitable.
There are people out there who spend most of their time in offices, sifting through records, with a very comfortable salary - without even bothering to actually study their subjects (just read the The article by Mr. Meyer for yourself) - which are supposed to work for culture. Serve culture.
I like the word culture. And if someone, either an individual or an institution decides to deal with culture, it had better be a gardener.
With humility and patience that entails.
it watering the garden, he takes care that is diversified, there ale loam, cycles, fallow, ashes, rot itself - which also usually grow the pretty roses. A perennial crop, requires a rich diversity of the corners of shadow and light.
Today, we want the effective, the cost of the exporter, the identity! (I do not think decide its identity, I think we can only observe it, pay it, and possibly cultivate ...)
Look out there, go walking in the nearby mountains, you see these areas of forests planted Norway spruce, which grow fast, straight, and make beautiful boards (just strong enough for a coffin cheap) and it is true, the grower is big - in the short term.
Go ahead and see that nothing grows in the undergrowth, most ferns, more foam, more animals ... straight trunks with their head held upright who seek the light-up. I feel
it is there. Watered which relates, that shines with all the risks of mono-culture: the land weakens and dies suddenly guardian, by wanting control, wanting success and money, and fast .
Improvised music (not only) is probably one of those areas of control, an area of relief, contradictions, such as slowness of dazzling, sometimes wandering, but an area essential to the soil at the entire garden. But this very frightening our bureaucrats, and I fear that ignorance of basic gardening - I hope it's not a deliberate obscurantism - Of our beloved politico-cultural and "journalists" in their pay, do send us all straight into the wall.
Michel Wintsch
Friday, October 15, 2010
Matula Tea H Pylori Reviews
Panta Rhei
PHOTO: Daimler AG
Everything flows, everything is in motion - that already knew the Greek philosopher Heraclitus . Life is extremely agile, continuous change processes affect our lives and ask each one a high degree of adaptability and flexibility, power, strength and endurance. CHANGE MANAGEMENT is a concept which today receives an ever-increasing weight - for who is able to cope with the constant change as possible, which has the lead.
Well, if our heart is strengthened and we We can focus on coordinates that are invariant and have eternal character.
Monday, October 11, 2010
What Is Cd Shoe Sizing
PATRICIA BOSSHARD
Mr Meyer
Sit for a moment and
Think about your attitude, your thoughts, your actions
You can admit you're a liar, or an ignorant
And think of the consequences due to your position, your power
Improvised music is dead?
Death
Aging
Bitterness The
fear
Confinement
Conformism
Formatting
No, sir,
We do not so easily defeated a living art
Your article reacted as musicians because it affects
freedom
We live in a democracy
But your thinking embodies
Switzerland and its politically correct
Ignorance to those who act in accordance with the laws of the People
Yes, sir,
improvised music to plug your power
It is everywhere and will continue to jouer
car elle est le reflet de l'ouverture sur le
monde La recherche d'aujourd'hui
Elle est
Inouï Une ressource et la voie vers exigeant
la tolérance.
Patricia Bosshard
Musicienne
Mr Meyer
Sit for a moment and
Think about your attitude, your thoughts, your actions
You can admit you're a liar, or an ignorant
And think of the consequences due to your position, your power
Improvised music is dead?
Death
Aging
Bitterness The
fear
Confinement
Conformism
Formatting
No, sir,
We do not so easily defeated a living art
Your article reacted as musicians because it affects
freedom
We live in a democracy
But your thinking embodies
Switzerland and its politically correct
Ignorance to those who act in accordance with the laws of the People
Yes, sir,
improvised music to plug your power
It is everywhere and will continue to jouer
car elle est le reflet de l'ouverture sur le
monde La recherche d'aujourd'hui
Elle est
Inouï Une ressource et la voie vers exigeant
la tolérance.
Patricia Bosshard
Musicienne
Sunday, October 10, 2010
Casual Attire For Evening
JOHN WOLF BRENNAN
, Switzerland acts as a flowering soundscape
obituary of a slightly premature obituary
[Preambulum]
The new dissonance with the claim to be international (as her anglicized name) in modern way and wants to continue to remain true to their credo: to prescribe the critical support of music making, instead of peering at the quota. They want independence and to afford the audience a little credit for. Instead it wants to sell information, instead of praise, question by "DRS2aktuell» Corinne Holtz-editor. So far, so good: soi-disant,
dissonant soi.
[Intro]
The latest number of dissonance with the ominous, clean punched out numbers one-eleven made me especially happy: finally have some provocative statements! First we must of Fred Frith improvisation as teachers (p. 10), forward the secret anarchists Alfred Zimmerlin (p.18) and the criticism of the new triangulation album "Whirligigs" (p. 80), we find on page 4, that improvisation this country is actually dead long ago. Perhaps we've landed in the wrong movie, everything (is) a fatal mistake, and we have never even lived? A case for Jack Sparrow and his pirate crew necrophiliac?
[Vamp 1]
The Catalan filmmaker Luis Bunuel added at the end of his autobiography, "Mon dernier soupir" expressed the modest desire to leave once a year his grave to be able to walk to the next stand, then read in the newspapers, what humanity again perpetrated for disgusting things has to be able to be grateful to get back into the vault. Gabs on newsstands this time to buy, our industry magazine. Ran to the reading in masochistic rituals and stubborn Groove-track search, we're extemporal and asynchronous practiced.
[thread]
The author Thomas Meyer - the mitbefindet same time as Pro Helvetia Foundation over the fate of improvising musicians - taught us then about his view of the Swiss improv scene, and wherever he looks, he is decay, decadence, zappaesque musty smell and an apocalyptic atmosphere laid. A future for the moribund patient is the way in the subtitle "The past and present a fleeting art form" does not already provided. The grave is dug before the text begins.
[Retrograde]
Besides the fact that a large portion of the article Sun backwards reads as if the last 30 years would have never happened, his anachronistic horizon, the nostalgic cultural pessimism and the narrow lane perspective, there are some fundamental misunderstandings, which we Bunuel zombies but still want to say something before we return to the grave.
[Solo 1]
"This free improvised music is .... in this June 22, almost established. They used to be by no means ..." (About a concert in the WIM Zurich). Thought was worthy not only of this event, but also of the author's attempt here to postulate a turning point, as if one had previously flourished un-established improvisation, "while today the establishment at work imagines. The fact is that there is always a matter of life and death goes on stage, whether we play from notes, with or without concepts, and established itself has in recent decades than the half-life or the life of live recordings, never the music itself The interactive sound experience in itself, whether improvised or composed komprovisiert, like everything Sounding a volatile gas, which escapes all reification.
[Riff 2]
"Free improvisation is music that is like over time, which makes their immediate expiration date of compositional attitude."
In fact, time is a central dimension of the music - any music, even the (never-term) free improvised. But on-time? At this reef trap are already wrecked much larger frigates ... may be so seductive
alignments with transcendent vector, we are aliens but reliably from the gravitational force of the finite sought, and a stone is left unturned. Even the "immediate" expiration date obeyed in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction (and certainly in the global download supermarket) all other laws - who could this have an expiration date on the latest music do reliably predict? Free improvised music is just so far as it stays open.
[collective improvisation 3] Had
example of producer Teo Macero the 12 minutes of additional track recordings of Miles Davis emerged a whole album would be "In a Silent Way" (1969) never arose. And would sound engineer Andreas Bruell not mentally currently hold the record button to capture Bruno Amstad vocal vocal outbreak would have "Bizarre Bazaar", the title track to "Whirligigs" (2010), never seen the light of the digital world sees. About Time was not for a scrupulous selection process, from the Christy Doran and I distilled out then two weeks later, three and a half hour and a quarter of music, guaranteed without consultation, it was a guaranteed unguaranteed expiry period.
[Solo 3]
"It shows here that the development of the material is by no means come to an end."
[Impulse 4]
Yes, wasdennsonst, howling all hell hundred thousand dogs? Why should "the material" another half-life inherent in us as a mortal? Nor, as we can not rise twice in the same river, the material remains available, it is evolving constantly, with or without our help. For music, the material is only when it is perceived, and, as Wolfgang Rihm executed in tended carefully to listeners who otherwise die every sound namely, the moment he has left the instrument in the eyes of the audience a hero. We are very temporary tenants, transient users, converters, at best, explorers, often surfers and not infrequently to storm victims of the material that we let slip through our hands without moving it each hold or even understand, and never owners. In rare moments by lightning strikes, and a few carbon atoms appear in a new molecular context.
[Vamp 2]
So what?
[Solo 4]
"Anyone who leaves out theoretically in this field, must learn to avoid the reputation of the dogmatist."
[Revamp 3]
such an open attitude would queue the music criticism in general good. In free improvisation should be a constitutive element. André Thomkins has brought this cryptic in his palindrome to the point: "dogma - I am God"
[Riff 5]
"There are musicians who still refuse or adorn, to talk about their music,"
[Impulse 6] herauszulesen
This silence is a general paralysis of the matter over - finally, there is also silent architects and sculptors, surgeons, and bridge builders, so that someone without the same ring the death knell heard. More important are the voices that rise up from the silent majority, and the same number dissonance brings with it - Frithseidank - straight to the next string a shining example eloquently.
[Solo 7]
"Thinking about improvisation is still used ..." (there are some zutode cited examples of the same old informants)
[collective improvisation 5]
After all, trust us on this dictum, the ability to think, to an activity but else can be operated only academically, complete with interim reference and bolognakompatiblem master's degree.
The basic problem of the academic world is that they are most like themselves reflected, and so the internal working groups often promote nothing but circular reasoning and self-fulfilling prophecies on inbred glossy paper. Why the spirit of "social relevance" automatically at universities, Conferences and symposia suspected? Would grassroots initiatives such as the WIM, the Cave12, the spiral, the Improvisorium, the Mullbau dependent self-referential of the superstructure, they would today still ponder over statutes, status and well-paid staff positions, rather than voluntarily to open free wild open spaces.
[Solo 8]
"What happens when the word in the music penetrates ...?"
[Revamp 4]
Again such an (unintentionally erotic?) Body that cause most currently active musicians probably just shake their heads is. At least since Cathy Berberian, rather since the cave songs of our ancestors, we know that the voice also can be a tool, while the instrumentalist a lifetime struggling to be a voice. Had Thomas Meyer, the program pago libre "platzDADA!" Proclaimed the dogma of freedom elsewhere can work on you, he would have the difference between "meeting" and "merger" may perceive differently. Border Crossings "on the way to the nonsense" are certainly not the exclusive domain of the word. And besides, a very active slam poetry scene has proven for years that very well may be improvised with words.
[Reprise 4]
"Free improvisation has mastered their craft, embarking on unknown territory, it has behind it, the venture, if it is not gone, yet predictable. "
become With all due respect, this is nonsense verschwurbelter how it would attempt it, the Dadaists never makes free. Neither can this job be more "managed" (Walter is quite different, inter-subjective and powers), nor can a departure into unknown territory will ever put behind them (they were never really un-known), is still a risk for the metering -.. or even predictable Each calculation is based on firm size, the curse and blessing of free improvisation is the very fact that each major variable and any variable at any time can vanish only to reappear in another, unexpected place again. The risk can not disappear because it was never the same and always there. To paraphrase a concentric comparison: only the narrowly targeted next arrow hits the mark. The venture is more like a nis-Waag, a precarious Un / balance, a precario equilibrio. And as we know since the financial crisis that forecasts are difficult, especially when they involve the future.
[Solo 8]
"I believe, however, that her story has now reached at least in Switzerland to an endpoint."
[Reprise 9]
The hard evidence of today are the big mistakes of tomorrow, that had to learn a Francis Fukuyama when he in 1992 after the fall of the Berlin Wall and the collapse of the Soviet Union the "end of history" announced.
[Counterpoint]
other hand, we have transitory improvisers no sufficient reason, we canonize himself. Parochialism, Gartehäglidenken, blinkers, blinkered, intolerance and food envy come from us before, as with other professional groups, managers as well as with the farmers. Dada and we are more culturally as an agricultural business, we are not entitled to subsidies, and certainly not automatic. A decent-marginal slope allowance per small-(Solo) and large animal unit (ensemble) did not though and would be good for our country Heidi - after all we are Sound landscape gardener with a difference, unpaid, and perhaps priceless nature and may soon include a UNESCO World Heritage Site.
[Reprise 3]
But claims to derive from the fact that we do what we can not, that's us - have been driven thoroughly - in contrast to our rural colleagues. A social need is not simple. Or is the departmental tasks so very thought that the farmers take care of the humus and we look to the Posthumus?
[Bridge]
Thanks to the dissonance we are in Hades but nevertheless gained another steaming pile of dung dissonant. Even in hell in Dante hats significantly more drive, power and action as the blessed paradise, and Goethe's Dr. Faust is a heavenly length by comparison to the snappy very clever, but funny fegefeurigen Mephisto.
[Outro]
We are neither in school nor intended as emergency supplies canon. The minimum subsistence of a civilized society, we are but still, just because we make are not luxuries but basic mental research, and this thriving now and again a few vital staple food, peppered as rich with so-called dissociation-like consonance. Switzerland as a thriving landscape of sound - an obituary? Rather a lively utopia in the here and now, at the same time nowhere and this is why now and here.
John Wolf Brennan, Komprovisator, co-founder of some
Working Bands
(Pago Libre, Momentum, triangulation)
, Switzerland acts as a flowering soundscape
obituary of a slightly premature obituary
[Preambulum]
The new dissonance with the claim to be international (as her anglicized name) in modern way and wants to continue to remain true to their credo: to prescribe the critical support of music making, instead of peering at the quota. They want independence and to afford the audience a little credit for. Instead it wants to sell information, instead of praise, question by "DRS2aktuell» Corinne Holtz-editor. So far, so good: soi-disant,
dissonant soi.
[Intro]
The latest number of dissonance with the ominous, clean punched out numbers one-eleven made me especially happy: finally have some provocative statements! First we must of Fred Frith improvisation as teachers (p. 10), forward the secret anarchists Alfred Zimmerlin (p.18) and the criticism of the new triangulation album "Whirligigs" (p. 80), we find on page 4, that improvisation this country is actually dead long ago. Perhaps we've landed in the wrong movie, everything (is) a fatal mistake, and we have never even lived? A case for Jack Sparrow and his pirate crew necrophiliac?
[Vamp 1]
The Catalan filmmaker Luis Bunuel added at the end of his autobiography, "Mon dernier soupir" expressed the modest desire to leave once a year his grave to be able to walk to the next stand, then read in the newspapers, what humanity again perpetrated for disgusting things has to be able to be grateful to get back into the vault. Gabs on newsstands this time to buy, our industry magazine. Ran to the reading in masochistic rituals and stubborn Groove-track search, we're extemporal and asynchronous practiced.
[thread]
The author Thomas Meyer - the mitbefindet same time as Pro Helvetia Foundation over the fate of improvising musicians - taught us then about his view of the Swiss improv scene, and wherever he looks, he is decay, decadence, zappaesque musty smell and an apocalyptic atmosphere laid. A future for the moribund patient is the way in the subtitle "The past and present a fleeting art form" does not already provided. The grave is dug before the text begins.
[Retrograde]
Besides the fact that a large portion of the article Sun backwards reads as if the last 30 years would have never happened, his anachronistic horizon, the nostalgic cultural pessimism and the narrow lane perspective, there are some fundamental misunderstandings, which we Bunuel zombies but still want to say something before we return to the grave.
[Solo 1]
"This free improvised music is .... in this June 22, almost established. They used to be by no means ..." (About a concert in the WIM Zurich). Thought was worthy not only of this event, but also of the author's attempt here to postulate a turning point, as if one had previously flourished un-established improvisation, "while today the establishment at work imagines. The fact is that there is always a matter of life and death goes on stage, whether we play from notes, with or without concepts, and established itself has in recent decades than the half-life or the life of live recordings, never the music itself The interactive sound experience in itself, whether improvised or composed komprovisiert, like everything Sounding a volatile gas, which escapes all reification.
[Riff 2]
"Free improvisation is music that is like over time, which makes their immediate expiration date of compositional attitude."
In fact, time is a central dimension of the music - any music, even the (never-term) free improvised. But on-time? At this reef trap are already wrecked much larger frigates ... may be so seductive
alignments with transcendent vector, we are aliens but reliably from the gravitational force of the finite sought, and a stone is left unturned. Even the "immediate" expiration date obeyed in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction (and certainly in the global download supermarket) all other laws - who could this have an expiration date on the latest music do reliably predict? Free improvised music is just so far as it stays open.
[collective improvisation 3] Had
example of producer Teo Macero the 12 minutes of additional track recordings of Miles Davis emerged a whole album would be "In a Silent Way" (1969) never arose. And would sound engineer Andreas Bruell not mentally currently hold the record button to capture Bruno Amstad vocal vocal outbreak would have "Bizarre Bazaar", the title track to "Whirligigs" (2010), never seen the light of the digital world sees. About Time was not for a scrupulous selection process, from the Christy Doran and I distilled out then two weeks later, three and a half hour and a quarter of music, guaranteed without consultation, it was a guaranteed unguaranteed expiry period.
[Solo 3]
"It shows here that the development of the material is by no means come to an end."
[Impulse 4]
Yes, wasdennsonst, howling all hell hundred thousand dogs? Why should "the material" another half-life inherent in us as a mortal? Nor, as we can not rise twice in the same river, the material remains available, it is evolving constantly, with or without our help. For music, the material is only when it is perceived, and, as Wolfgang Rihm executed in tended carefully to listeners who otherwise die every sound namely, the moment he has left the instrument in the eyes of the audience a hero. We are very temporary tenants, transient users, converters, at best, explorers, often surfers and not infrequently to storm victims of the material that we let slip through our hands without moving it each hold or even understand, and never owners. In rare moments by lightning strikes, and a few carbon atoms appear in a new molecular context.
[Vamp 2]
So what?
[Solo 4]
"Anyone who leaves out theoretically in this field, must learn to avoid the reputation of the dogmatist."
[Revamp 3]
such an open attitude would queue the music criticism in general good. In free improvisation should be a constitutive element. André Thomkins has brought this cryptic in his palindrome to the point: "dogma - I am God"
[Riff 5]
"There are musicians who still refuse or adorn, to talk about their music,"
[Impulse 6] herauszulesen
This silence is a general paralysis of the matter over - finally, there is also silent architects and sculptors, surgeons, and bridge builders, so that someone without the same ring the death knell heard. More important are the voices that rise up from the silent majority, and the same number dissonance brings with it - Frithseidank - straight to the next string a shining example eloquently.
[Solo 7]
"Thinking about improvisation is still used ..." (there are some zutode cited examples of the same old informants)
[collective improvisation 5]
After all, trust us on this dictum, the ability to think, to an activity but else can be operated only academically, complete with interim reference and bolognakompatiblem master's degree.
The basic problem of the academic world is that they are most like themselves reflected, and so the internal working groups often promote nothing but circular reasoning and self-fulfilling prophecies on inbred glossy paper. Why the spirit of "social relevance" automatically at universities, Conferences and symposia suspected? Would grassroots initiatives such as the WIM, the Cave12, the spiral, the Improvisorium, the Mullbau dependent self-referential of the superstructure, they would today still ponder over statutes, status and well-paid staff positions, rather than voluntarily to open free wild open spaces.
[Solo 8]
"What happens when the word in the music penetrates ...?"
[Revamp 4]
Again such an (unintentionally erotic?) Body that cause most currently active musicians probably just shake their heads is. At least since Cathy Berberian, rather since the cave songs of our ancestors, we know that the voice also can be a tool, while the instrumentalist a lifetime struggling to be a voice. Had Thomas Meyer, the program pago libre "platzDADA!" Proclaimed the dogma of freedom elsewhere can work on you, he would have the difference between "meeting" and "merger" may perceive differently. Border Crossings "on the way to the nonsense" are certainly not the exclusive domain of the word. And besides, a very active slam poetry scene has proven for years that very well may be improvised with words.
[Reprise 4]
"Free improvisation has mastered their craft, embarking on unknown territory, it has behind it, the venture, if it is not gone, yet predictable. "
become With all due respect, this is nonsense verschwurbelter how it would attempt it, the Dadaists never makes free. Neither can this job be more "managed" (Walter is quite different, inter-subjective and powers), nor can a departure into unknown territory will ever put behind them (they were never really un-known), is still a risk for the metering -.. or even predictable Each calculation is based on firm size, the curse and blessing of free improvisation is the very fact that each major variable and any variable at any time can vanish only to reappear in another, unexpected place again. The risk can not disappear because it was never the same and always there. To paraphrase a concentric comparison: only the narrowly targeted next arrow hits the mark. The venture is more like a nis-Waag, a precarious Un / balance, a precario equilibrio. And as we know since the financial crisis that forecasts are difficult, especially when they involve the future.
[Solo 8]
"I believe, however, that her story has now reached at least in Switzerland to an endpoint."
[Reprise 9]
The hard evidence of today are the big mistakes of tomorrow, that had to learn a Francis Fukuyama when he in 1992 after the fall of the Berlin Wall and the collapse of the Soviet Union the "end of history" announced.
[Counterpoint]
other hand, we have transitory improvisers no sufficient reason, we canonize himself. Parochialism, Gartehäglidenken, blinkers, blinkered, intolerance and food envy come from us before, as with other professional groups, managers as well as with the farmers. Dada and we are more culturally as an agricultural business, we are not entitled to subsidies, and certainly not automatic. A decent-marginal slope allowance per small-(Solo) and large animal unit (ensemble) did not though and would be good for our country Heidi - after all we are Sound landscape gardener with a difference, unpaid, and perhaps priceless nature and may soon include a UNESCO World Heritage Site.
[Reprise 3]
But claims to derive from the fact that we do what we can not, that's us - have been driven thoroughly - in contrast to our rural colleagues. A social need is not simple. Or is the departmental tasks so very thought that the farmers take care of the humus and we look to the Posthumus?
[Bridge]
Thanks to the dissonance we are in Hades but nevertheless gained another steaming pile of dung dissonant. Even in hell in Dante hats significantly more drive, power and action as the blessed paradise, and Goethe's Dr. Faust is a heavenly length by comparison to the snappy very clever, but funny fegefeurigen Mephisto.
[Outro]
We are neither in school nor intended as emergency supplies canon. The minimum subsistence of a civilized society, we are but still, just because we make are not luxuries but basic mental research, and this thriving now and again a few vital staple food, peppered as rich with so-called dissociation-like consonance. Switzerland as a thriving landscape of sound - an obituary? Rather a lively utopia in the here and now, at the same time nowhere and this is why now and here.
John Wolf Brennan, Komprovisator, co-founder of some
Working Bands
(Pago Libre, Momentum, triangulation)
Pancake Mix To Make Waffles
CORNELIA MÜLLER
If something is in the end, it is the policy ...
The Uncool Festival held in the Swiss and international Poschiavo IMPROV MUSIC regularly and sometimes in combination with poetry, painting, dance, nature. The Improvised Music evolves like any other language playfully and with unlimited creativity. The only difference to the composition is that the improvised music is not listed and therefore hardly reproducible. Regarding ingenuity, sound experience, individuality and cultural affiliation, I see no different from other genres of music. The Improvised music will never keep silent and help yourself to anything that helps it to new aural expression.
Cornelia Müller
Artistic Director UNCOOL Festival Poschiavo
If something is in the end, it is the policy ...
The Uncool Festival held in the Swiss and international Poschiavo IMPROV MUSIC regularly and sometimes in combination with poetry, painting, dance, nature. The Improvised Music evolves like any other language playfully and with unlimited creativity. The only difference to the composition is that the improvised music is not listed and therefore hardly reproducible. Regarding ingenuity, sound experience, individuality and cultural affiliation, I see no different from other genres of music. The Improvised music will never keep silent and help yourself to anything that helps it to new aural expression.
Cornelia Müller
Artistic Director UNCOOL Festival Poschiavo
Saturday, October 9, 2010
Male Vs. Female Coats
FRANK HEIERLI
a music based on music
precision tracking and perception of the available space, to our orientation (see also CERN)
identify and recognize those, and to support, to open what is the to discover new without ever finding it (see also CERN)
the free act and the free music ((in our minds anyway)) as an attitude to the capital of life of the product
an unintentional, at the zero point playing music, illusions, directly and without a name
the unused music that is not orchestrated sound that is not used human
not made, le non Faire le NonFer
belonged to accept, not plays music of the children (construction workers)
that one's art itself away from its position at Next
the resultant nothing, the silence
notice the resulting residual him the protagonists make
the Changeable, the temporary disappearance of, the question asked to hold up as a drive
can scrape and be paid on the stage
and therefore the music of the statement to enter the room (ggt. distraction entertainment seduction)
Bern, 8. Oktober
Frank Heierli
keine Funktion
Cello
a music based on music
precision tracking and perception of the available space, to our orientation (see also CERN)
identify and recognize those, and to support, to open what is the to discover new without ever finding it (see also CERN)
the free act and the free music ((in our minds anyway)) as an attitude to the capital of life of the product
an unintentional, at the zero point playing music, illusions, directly and without a name
the unused music that is not orchestrated sound that is not used human
not made, le non Faire le NonFer
belonged to accept, not plays music of the children (construction workers)
that one's art itself away from its position at Next
the resultant nothing, the silence
notice the resulting residual him the protagonists make
the Changeable, the temporary disappearance of, the question asked to hold up as a drive
can scrape and be paid on the stage
and therefore the music of the statement to enter the room (ggt. distraction entertainment seduction)
Bern, 8. Oktober
Frank Heierli
keine Funktion
Cello
Friday, October 8, 2010
Ozark Trail Replacement Parts Air
COLETTE GRAND
Mr. Meyer, you ask yourself gravedigger of improvised music, this is serious and sad for all the musicians who practice it, beginning with those that you appoint in your article pernicious .
Music is life, like water, nothing can stop it.
music is play, improvisation is its most playful.
The music is "sound thinking" (Victor Hugo), or composed spontaneously accurately interpreted, it is dialogue between whoever and whoever is listening.
And no not even you Mr. Meyer can not break this exchange in deciding the end of this or that music. Colette Grand
- random musician
Mr. Meyer, you ask yourself gravedigger of improvised music, this is serious and sad for all the musicians who practice it, beginning with those that you appoint in your article pernicious .
Music is life, like water, nothing can stop it.
music is play, improvisation is its most playful.
The music is "sound thinking" (Victor Hugo), or composed spontaneously accurately interpreted, it is dialogue between whoever and whoever is listening.
And no not even you Mr. Meyer can not break this exchange in deciding the end of this or that music. Colette Grand
- random musician
Thursday, October 7, 2010
Trimethoprim How Long Does It Take
D'INCISE
is you do much much honor everything remugle your article provoked. J'adjoindrai still my comment, even if only to emphasize the solidarity and strength of ties between the improvisers, in the broadest sense, this piece of land.
Do I say that you are to me utterly unknown, like most of your references, except those few musicians that I can not qualify because of death often coexist and whose work seems ever evolution, and open, and nourished by the encounter with those of my generation.
It seems to me very bold, but highly journalistic reduce a set of heterogeneous practice under the same name as a tool or a way to be able to define an inexorable result. We are not
p! as dogmatic, we are not playing music, but all that seems possible, enjoyable, and carrying within it a spirit of freedom. there is no need to say how this notion is suffering in contemporary society. Free improvisation carries a libertarian spirit and non-hierarchical. non interest public as a social mass that subject to the general order of society is obviously not surprising, as the position of state power with respect to these music.
One day we're playing one another one day, we invent our concert venues, wineries, cafes, cinemas, theaters, bookstores, galleries, private, our instruments, borrowing one another's techniques, adding back extensions, confident their new role! s, our configurations, from solo to orchestra, games, exercises, endangered, reduction or expansion.
freedom and improvisation form attitude passed by the members of a group, so it's not a style or manner of ringing, but a social status to a primordial creation Commons. The music that comes out is another matter, and I do not feel that this is in lack of innovation.
Speaking of computer, since this is my first instrument, it does not presuppose in any way a pre-registration or anything pre-sets, no more than would the tension of a rope on one instrument. He breaks the sound cultural landmarks, it is both intangible and potential realization endless. The computer has forced the musicians to play differently, all as they force constantly remi! is questioning the practice computer.
And finally, talk about music Switzerland, which which is as if our three squares and five cows were cabbage is self-sufficient? A very conservative view that I leave to those of the other side. We are part of a scene without limitation, travel, communications, expansive, sharing, altruistic, we are comrades in thought and practice. If the mountain return the sound of the horn, it does abstract work for us, although we derive above. Our ear is the world, and death, I leave you, salute from me, thank you.
d'incise
is you do much much honor everything remugle your article provoked. J'adjoindrai still my comment, even if only to emphasize the solidarity and strength of ties between the improvisers, in the broadest sense, this piece of land.
Do I say that you are to me utterly unknown, like most of your references, except those few musicians that I can not qualify because of death often coexist and whose work seems ever evolution, and open, and nourished by the encounter with those of my generation.
It seems to me very bold, but highly journalistic reduce a set of heterogeneous practice under the same name as a tool or a way to be able to define an inexorable result. We are not
p! as dogmatic, we are not playing music, but all that seems possible, enjoyable, and carrying within it a spirit of freedom. there is no need to say how this notion is suffering in contemporary society. Free improvisation carries a libertarian spirit and non-hierarchical. non interest public as a social mass that subject to the general order of society is obviously not surprising, as the position of state power with respect to these music.
One day we're playing one another one day, we invent our concert venues, wineries, cafes, cinemas, theaters, bookstores, galleries, private, our instruments, borrowing one another's techniques, adding back extensions, confident their new role! s, our configurations, from solo to orchestra, games, exercises, endangered, reduction or expansion.
freedom and improvisation form attitude passed by the members of a group, so it's not a style or manner of ringing, but a social status to a primordial creation Commons. The music that comes out is another matter, and I do not feel that this is in lack of innovation.
Speaking of computer, since this is my first instrument, it does not presuppose in any way a pre-registration or anything pre-sets, no more than would the tension of a rope on one instrument. He breaks the sound cultural landmarks, it is both intangible and potential realization endless. The computer has forced the musicians to play differently, all as they force constantly remi! is questioning the practice computer.
And finally, talk about music Switzerland, which which is as if our three squares and five cows were cabbage is self-sufficient? A very conservative view that I leave to those of the other side. We are part of a scene without limitation, travel, communications, expansive, sharing, altruistic, we are comrades in thought and practice. If the mountain return the sound of the horn, it does abstract work for us, although we derive above. Our ear is the world, and death, I leave you, salute from me, thank you.
d'incise
How To Give Viroptic Eye Drops
DRAGOS TARA
Impressions postmortem
Reactions to the article by Thomas Meyer Dissonance
improvised music is dead?
These few lines are adding a personal note to provide more articles published here and there that I could join. I refer also to the endless controversies which may raise term improvised music.
Whatever frustration reading this article, more ignorant than wicked indeed, but still harmful, I think that the problem is not what Mr. Meyer, but rather way of thinking about musical life in Switzerland. So in that sense (the Swiss musical life in a broader sense) that would add a few words flow already tripped clumsily by section of Dissonance.
Numbness in the country without fever
What strikes first and who has now been repeatedly noted is that young generations are absent from any discussion in this article. The paralysis that emerges then demonstrates the tremendous inertia of a country shy, embarrassed, who needs to move forward safely. It goes without saying that paying attention to young Swiss artist has never before Paris and Berlin did mean a leap into the void of the Swiss press.
must first ask who would be able to judge contemporary practices in structures over: print, broadcast (one hardly dares to mention this medium who lives in another country altogether). Switzerland thrilled when compared to its neighboring French and German when it comes to exceed the classical references and academic. A few blocks here and there to tell the practices inventing itself. But the trades are sporadic and often academic. Elsewhere in the meager cultural inserts daily, self-censorship is the rule, the public should be reassured.
The music and the most recent artistic practices, often unclassifiable, and in which improvised music is integrated, as well as new approaches to composition, but also of sound art, performance, etc. constitute the challenge ... any living culture throws museumizing classifications. But it is rare to see the challenge faced in our country.
If this country seems small, it must be said that it is mostly in terms of artistic ambition, cultural. If it is quite another for finance, pharmaceuticals or sale of weapons (I do not wander not later), players are faced with the cultural bastion of a press erected guardians of a social contract with a fixed assumed people unfit to innovations.
The federal structure of Switzerland is still adding to the feeling of living in cramped, in a country that sees its artists often exported. It is also intriguing to note the echo off border enjoyed most of the Swiss artists ignored by the article, their countless European connections (and sometimes beyond) in the light of this lack of recognition in Switzerland.
The Swiss culture and its most notable absentee: Switzerland
The most characteristic obvious Switzerland is probably because the federal system. It means, first, the lack of true common line.
What is the federal policy on culture?
As I said above, this ticket does not specifically mood Thomas Meyer, but it must be said it is significant that someone who thinks like him is affiliated with Pro Helvetia.
Despite a clear line or a common effort to rebalance the regions, federalism merely refer the responsibility of the cantons and communes. It is no longer bother to remember the difficulties faced trans-cantonal projects failing to meet the changing and unclear criteria of Pro Helvetia.
That's the identity of this country as a whole that is problematic, the absence of a joint initiative, minority areas, (eg speaking to mention what I know best), often pays the price of lack of recognition (if not more) of their work with a more institutional Switzerland.
networks yes, but voices?
I do not want these lines do believe that I think cultural life depends only on political and economic structures. It's just that this article is the opportunity to highlight the lack of recognition and relay facing cultural actors here.
artists cited in the article Dissonance know something, for having fought for decades before being granted recognition.
artistic practices are part of the social fabric and question the anchor of the artists. the world around them. And on this side meaning the Swiss artists are often tragically ... Switzerland. I
means by that the fear up the challenge, making noise after 22h, the controversy, claim status or claim of all.
It is true that the period we live is not conducive to clear and dogmas. I do not really anxious and feel very much aligned with this structure in starfish, the many networks that make up this country and the entire European scene. No need to bring everyone together under one banner.
What worries me more is that in Switzerland it is very rare to see musicians said what they say these days, and be ready to write down their ideas, to come together for recall that, for example, the Swiss improvised music (and its branches to other music, disciplines and countries) is interesting, challenging and important to the life in Switzerland. If I want to take part is that I think it is the Fringe's most exhilarating musical practice of that country.
No conclusion, but for the future: Thank you Mr. Meyer!
As I just mentioned the initiatives taken and of words in recent days are rare and must therefore use one of the few stepping stones available to us to be heard.
Dragos Tara
musician
Impressions postmortem
Reactions to the article by Thomas Meyer Dissonance
improvised music is dead?
These few lines are adding a personal note to provide more articles published here and there that I could join. I refer also to the endless controversies which may raise term improvised music.
Whatever frustration reading this article, more ignorant than wicked indeed, but still harmful, I think that the problem is not what Mr. Meyer, but rather way of thinking about musical life in Switzerland. So in that sense (the Swiss musical life in a broader sense) that would add a few words flow already tripped clumsily by section of Dissonance.
Numbness in the country without fever
What strikes first and who has now been repeatedly noted is that young generations are absent from any discussion in this article. The paralysis that emerges then demonstrates the tremendous inertia of a country shy, embarrassed, who needs to move forward safely. It goes without saying that paying attention to young Swiss artist has never before Paris and Berlin did mean a leap into the void of the Swiss press.
must first ask who would be able to judge contemporary practices in structures over: print, broadcast (one hardly dares to mention this medium who lives in another country altogether). Switzerland thrilled when compared to its neighboring French and German when it comes to exceed the classical references and academic. A few blocks here and there to tell the practices inventing itself. But the trades are sporadic and often academic. Elsewhere in the meager cultural inserts daily, self-censorship is the rule, the public should be reassured.
The music and the most recent artistic practices, often unclassifiable, and in which improvised music is integrated, as well as new approaches to composition, but also of sound art, performance, etc. constitute the challenge ... any living culture throws museumizing classifications. But it is rare to see the challenge faced in our country.
If this country seems small, it must be said that it is mostly in terms of artistic ambition, cultural. If it is quite another for finance, pharmaceuticals or sale of weapons (I do not wander not later), players are faced with the cultural bastion of a press erected guardians of a social contract with a fixed assumed people unfit to innovations.
The federal structure of Switzerland is still adding to the feeling of living in cramped, in a country that sees its artists often exported. It is also intriguing to note the echo off border enjoyed most of the Swiss artists ignored by the article, their countless European connections (and sometimes beyond) in the light of this lack of recognition in Switzerland.
The Swiss culture and its most notable absentee: Switzerland
The most characteristic obvious Switzerland is probably because the federal system. It means, first, the lack of true common line.
What is the federal policy on culture?
As I said above, this ticket does not specifically mood Thomas Meyer, but it must be said it is significant that someone who thinks like him is affiliated with Pro Helvetia.
Despite a clear line or a common effort to rebalance the regions, federalism merely refer the responsibility of the cantons and communes. It is no longer bother to remember the difficulties faced trans-cantonal projects failing to meet the changing and unclear criteria of Pro Helvetia.
That's the identity of this country as a whole that is problematic, the absence of a joint initiative, minority areas, (eg speaking to mention what I know best), often pays the price of lack of recognition (if not more) of their work with a more institutional Switzerland.
networks yes, but voices?
I do not want these lines do believe that I think cultural life depends only on political and economic structures. It's just that this article is the opportunity to highlight the lack of recognition and relay facing cultural actors here.
artists cited in the article Dissonance know something, for having fought for decades before being granted recognition.
artistic practices are part of the social fabric and question the anchor of the artists. the world around them. And on this side meaning the Swiss artists are often tragically ... Switzerland. I
means by that the fear up the challenge, making noise after 22h, the controversy, claim status or claim of all.
It is true that the period we live is not conducive to clear and dogmas. I do not really anxious and feel very much aligned with this structure in starfish, the many networks that make up this country and the entire European scene. No need to bring everyone together under one banner.
What worries me more is that in Switzerland it is very rare to see musicians said what they say these days, and be ready to write down their ideas, to come together for recall that, for example, the Swiss improvised music (and its branches to other music, disciplines and countries) is interesting, challenging and important to the life in Switzerland. If I want to take part is that I think it is the Fringe's most exhilarating musical practice of that country.
No conclusion, but for the future: Thank you Mr. Meyer!
As I just mentioned the initiatives taken and of words in recent days are rare and must therefore use one of the few stepping stones available to us to be heard.
Dragos Tara
musician
Test Drive Unlimiteddemo
THÜRING BRÄM
Ich glaube, da Thomas Meyer has stirred up a hornet's nest. Thanks to him that he has done that. The amazing response of his article is to be welcomed for the Dissonance.
After repeated reading but nowhere can I find a statement against the Free improvisation, even if some funding agencies that might want to read so and take the affected improvisers the text (too) personally. Nevertheless, here a few thoughts of an older animal that has taught from 1975 to 1983, the target subject at annual rates in a basic course teacher training and a group of young people in music school Basel (group Archeopterix from which today emerged some bestallte professional musician are) has exercised. The main reasons to include this subject in the curriculum were then pedagogical nature. "How can be naturally integrated the learning of musical thought operative in every music class?" I then put the financing of such a political subject. I also discussed why students in the training experience in free improvisation is a priority to theory building that can use them only when some practical experience are available.
After the groundbreaking book by Umberto Eco (The Open Work, 1968), it was clear that find this kind of music-making into a new, liberated world view of our Western society input would have.
It is therefore not primarily musical reasons (If the free improvisation free jazz or avant-garde of John Cage's philosophy or wherever?), But particularly, educational, political and psychological, at the time were decisive free for this " "Art of making music.
Educational: How can technical limited capabilities acoustic phenomena are produced, both result in the interaction with other people to musical experience? By taking away the pressure of the no-fault-making is being allowed to promote their own decision.
political / sociological: What are the preconditions that I - even though I speak no instrument - with sounds active and not just consuming it I? (For this example, Cornelius Cardew's Nature Study Notes, Improvisation Rites in 1969 for his Scratch Orchestra: Example: "For any number of musicians playing melody instruments plus any number of non-musicians playing anything"). This means that improvisation is an attitude that is accessible to all. By dispensing with a traditional aesthetics of the existing canon is called into question, respectively. invited to the dialogue.
Psychological: It was then soon realized that if we improvised "free" without any precautions that are far exceeded especially in the limit of the amateurs would be that the group broke away in no more psychologically manageable realm: I remember an improvisation in a church center, as one participant struck suddenly wild with a chair on the altar.
was time all relatively "new" and "exciting" (except that as a professional composer just out of training came, which was based exclusively on serial technology or as a youth, he wanted to play no scales, is chaotic on could move the keys, or as an adult, who had never learned an instrument, but could now finally be there in a group). The UE-Verlag, in its Red Series pioneered with its materials, the Music Academy of Basel in 1974 issued a number of "information and attempts" (the most relevant publication Nr.XI the rules of improvisation and free and Katrin Susi was Würmli , 1982), John Paynter and Peter Aston went to Sound and Silence, 1970, the phenomenon fundamentally after.
As I witnessed this first departure was then ended when the subject was finally offered in several universities and for me personally and subjectively, it was the moment when I ceased even to teach the subject: Each year was as a new group and always after a year, when finally a musical Development could have happened, we broke up. But many are musically developed further so that they reached the highest forms of musical expression. When I was in 1987 at the greeting of my first vintage of students as head of the Conservatory of Lucerne asked the approximately 30 new, straight on to play just once, there was quite a fuss. Only a small group found the reasonable and could move into the tumult of a musical. Fifteen years later, there was hardly anyone who has not participated willingly and with some prior knowledge.
The Lucerne meetings for free improvisation, Ensign Walter, Peter K Frey and Christoph Baumann with the help of the Lucerne Conservatory in the late eighties called into being, so to speak, was a first theoretical study of this development. The number of "improvisation" of the Amadeus-Verlag with the reports of these meetings went far beyond just the musical aspects of improvisation. They escaped to the issue, as Meyer suggests, they saw the phenomenon on a much larger anthropological context. As an example, the contribution of the linguist François Grosjean serve, the parallels to "play" within the encyclopedic knowledge of a speaker or the one who pulled Edward Hall, the anthropological practices between different cultures described: To what extent were the "free Improvisations "in human society, in analogy to the musical improvisation?
We have seen an Musizierart has virtually established itself as a species. Just as then, the Jazz in his early years, exciting and new (and sometimes also socio-politically motivated), established change and develop but it is also needed. What I think appeals to Thomas Meyer, this threshold is reached. If you want to improvise freely, as we have done in the last forty years, today we have the sophistication - dodge (which some may well) or we have to go in new directions - in the really high art. A certain "Déjà-entendu" is quite recognizable in these efforts. Not with the individual, but in aesthetic or against aesthetic attitude. Wherever you go, is precisely the excitement. But today there are whole new areas, such as at the intersection of virtual and physical improvisation, which at that time in the analog age of electronics has not been accessible or in some other way. The options will feed back to our ways of playing without electronics.
But one thing is clear: There is no reason not to support the free improvisation as a form of expression in contemporary music. It is easily grown, but so they can sich noch lange nicht selber Finanzieren.
Thüring Bräm
Ich glaube, da Thomas Meyer has stirred up a hornet's nest. Thanks to him that he has done that. The amazing response of his article is to be welcomed for the Dissonance.
After repeated reading but nowhere can I find a statement against the Free improvisation, even if some funding agencies that might want to read so and take the affected improvisers the text (too) personally. Nevertheless, here a few thoughts of an older animal that has taught from 1975 to 1983, the target subject at annual rates in a basic course teacher training and a group of young people in music school Basel (group Archeopterix from which today emerged some bestallte professional musician are) has exercised. The main reasons to include this subject in the curriculum were then pedagogical nature. "How can be naturally integrated the learning of musical thought operative in every music class?" I then put the financing of such a political subject. I also discussed why students in the training experience in free improvisation is a priority to theory building that can use them only when some practical experience are available.
After the groundbreaking book by Umberto Eco (The Open Work, 1968), it was clear that find this kind of music-making into a new, liberated world view of our Western society input would have.
It is therefore not primarily musical reasons (If the free improvisation free jazz or avant-garde of John Cage's philosophy or wherever?), But particularly, educational, political and psychological, at the time were decisive free for this " "Art of making music.
Educational: How can technical limited capabilities acoustic phenomena are produced, both result in the interaction with other people to musical experience? By taking away the pressure of the no-fault-making is being allowed to promote their own decision.
political / sociological: What are the preconditions that I - even though I speak no instrument - with sounds active and not just consuming it I? (For this example, Cornelius Cardew's Nature Study Notes, Improvisation Rites in 1969 for his Scratch Orchestra: Example: "For any number of musicians playing melody instruments plus any number of non-musicians playing anything"). This means that improvisation is an attitude that is accessible to all. By dispensing with a traditional aesthetics of the existing canon is called into question, respectively. invited to the dialogue.
Psychological: It was then soon realized that if we improvised "free" without any precautions that are far exceeded especially in the limit of the amateurs would be that the group broke away in no more psychologically manageable realm: I remember an improvisation in a church center, as one participant struck suddenly wild with a chair on the altar.
was time all relatively "new" and "exciting" (except that as a professional composer just out of training came, which was based exclusively on serial technology or as a youth, he wanted to play no scales, is chaotic on could move the keys, or as an adult, who had never learned an instrument, but could now finally be there in a group). The UE-Verlag, in its Red Series pioneered with its materials, the Music Academy of Basel in 1974 issued a number of "information and attempts" (the most relevant publication Nr.XI the rules of improvisation and free and Katrin Susi was Würmli , 1982), John Paynter and Peter Aston went to Sound and Silence, 1970, the phenomenon fundamentally after.
As I witnessed this first departure was then ended when the subject was finally offered in several universities and for me personally and subjectively, it was the moment when I ceased even to teach the subject: Each year was as a new group and always after a year, when finally a musical Development could have happened, we broke up. But many are musically developed further so that they reached the highest forms of musical expression. When I was in 1987 at the greeting of my first vintage of students as head of the Conservatory of Lucerne asked the approximately 30 new, straight on to play just once, there was quite a fuss. Only a small group found the reasonable and could move into the tumult of a musical. Fifteen years later, there was hardly anyone who has not participated willingly and with some prior knowledge.
The Lucerne meetings for free improvisation, Ensign Walter, Peter K Frey and Christoph Baumann with the help of the Lucerne Conservatory in the late eighties called into being, so to speak, was a first theoretical study of this development. The number of "improvisation" of the Amadeus-Verlag with the reports of these meetings went far beyond just the musical aspects of improvisation. They escaped to the issue, as Meyer suggests, they saw the phenomenon on a much larger anthropological context. As an example, the contribution of the linguist François Grosjean serve, the parallels to "play" within the encyclopedic knowledge of a speaker or the one who pulled Edward Hall, the anthropological practices between different cultures described: To what extent were the "free Improvisations "in human society, in analogy to the musical improvisation?
We have seen an Musizierart has virtually established itself as a species. Just as then, the Jazz in his early years, exciting and new (and sometimes also socio-politically motivated), established change and develop but it is also needed. What I think appeals to Thomas Meyer, this threshold is reached. If you want to improvise freely, as we have done in the last forty years, today we have the sophistication - dodge (which some may well) or we have to go in new directions - in the really high art. A certain "Déjà-entendu" is quite recognizable in these efforts. Not with the individual, but in aesthetic or against aesthetic attitude. Wherever you go, is precisely the excitement. But today there are whole new areas, such as at the intersection of virtual and physical improvisation, which at that time in the analog age of electronics has not been accessible or in some other way. The options will feed back to our ways of playing without electronics.
But one thing is clear: There is no reason not to support the free improvisation as a form of expression in contemporary music. It is easily grown, but so they can sich noch lange nicht selber Finanzieren.
Thüring Bräm
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BEATRICE GRAF
Dear Mr. Meyer,
Improvised music is not improvised, it is known.
If the concert at the wim was exceptional because they are all exceptional musicians. Switzerland does
fortunately not limited to this beautiful place.
everywhere - just out of his city and his generation do you find quality improvisers of all ages and all walks of musical ... When
world stars of the theater (the Belgian Collective TG Stan) and dance (the Belgian choreographer Alain Plattel) speak of improvisation as their mode of current work and special relationship they have with improvised music It is time to render unto Caesar what belongs to him.
No improvisation is not dead: indeed quite the opposite.
Improvisation is the epitome of an artistic activity en mouvement et de vie.
Béatrice Graf Musicienne artiste.
Dear Mr. Meyer,
Improvised music is not improvised, it is known.
If the concert at the wim was exceptional because they are all exceptional musicians. Switzerland does
fortunately not limited to this beautiful place.
everywhere - just out of his city and his generation do you find quality improvisers of all ages and all walks of musical ... When
world stars of the theater (the Belgian Collective TG Stan) and dance (the Belgian choreographer Alain Plattel) speak of improvisation as their mode of current work and special relationship they have with improvised music It is time to render unto Caesar what belongs to him.
No improvisation is not dead: indeed quite the opposite.
Improvisation is the epitome of an artistic activity en mouvement et de vie.
Béatrice Graf Musicienne artiste.
Notches In A Balsa Wood Bridge
WALTER FAEHNDRICH
Dear Thomas
First I would like to thank you for what you have done for years for us improvisers and for the improvisation scene in general good and useful. Did you always used to us and in various media of improvisation, where a forum. Your great achievements in this regard have been very valuable and absolutely undisputed.
with dissonance in your article did you now but as far as leaning out the window, that you are crashed. The article is so full of factual errors, fundamental misunderstandings and lack of information, I really did not want to dwell on that.
Now that I have but I read also your reply to the reactions of my improvisation colleagues, and my annoyance then rather have increased, I can not help but, reluctantly, to bite the spring to very briefly two things clear:
first Improvised music is dazzling. She is thoroughly healthy, vital, bursting with energy and is in all corners of movement. It is a pleasure to see how the improvisation becomes more and more territory and increasingly and unmistakably sets the scene. This refreshing and at the same deep insights into the fundamental processes of music-emergence of enabling Musizierform is widely estimated at more seriously and cared for.
This also applies to mediation by the universities (at the Music Academy of Basel there since 2003, even a master's degree with studies major free improvisation), and it also applies to the reflection of the improvisation (the Amadeus-Verlag, between 1992 and 2007, six volumes (Improvisation I - VI) with a total of 70 contributions by various authors published on the subject).
second The article says in dissonance indeed negligible role in the situation of improvisation, but much of the state in which there is reporting it. Unfortunately, he is typical of the way as this is the pigeonholing eluding making music appears from the outside and the inadequate level is the most reported. In view of this we must be happy that the work of our artists with the clueless comments of outsiders has nothing to do.
Dear fellow musicians, let us continue to make music from the inside and reflect on our work as before. Let us not confuse failed journalistic statements and we hold ourselves to the famous motto:
Reporting on improvising musician has to practice mostly the same as an ornithological treatise on the love life of Birds.
With still warm regards, Yours, Walter
Fähndrich
Brissago, 6 October 2010
PS What an idiot you have actually forced this title?
Dear Thomas
First I would like to thank you for what you have done for years for us improvisers and for the improvisation scene in general good and useful. Did you always used to us and in various media of improvisation, where a forum. Your great achievements in this regard have been very valuable and absolutely undisputed.
with dissonance in your article did you now but as far as leaning out the window, that you are crashed. The article is so full of factual errors, fundamental misunderstandings and lack of information, I really did not want to dwell on that.
Now that I have but I read also your reply to the reactions of my improvisation colleagues, and my annoyance then rather have increased, I can not help but, reluctantly, to bite the spring to very briefly two things clear:
first Improvised music is dazzling. She is thoroughly healthy, vital, bursting with energy and is in all corners of movement. It is a pleasure to see how the improvisation becomes more and more territory and increasingly and unmistakably sets the scene. This refreshing and at the same deep insights into the fundamental processes of music-emergence of enabling Musizierform is widely estimated at more seriously and cared for.
This also applies to mediation by the universities (at the Music Academy of Basel there since 2003, even a master's degree with studies major free improvisation), and it also applies to the reflection of the improvisation (the Amadeus-Verlag, between 1992 and 2007, six volumes (Improvisation I - VI) with a total of 70 contributions by various authors published on the subject).
second The article says in dissonance indeed negligible role in the situation of improvisation, but much of the state in which there is reporting it. Unfortunately, he is typical of the way as this is the pigeonholing eluding making music appears from the outside and the inadequate level is the most reported. In view of this we must be happy that the work of our artists with the clueless comments of outsiders has nothing to do.
Dear fellow musicians, let us continue to make music from the inside and reflect on our work as before. Let us not confuse failed journalistic statements and we hold ourselves to the famous motto:
Reporting on improvising musician has to practice mostly the same as an ornithological treatise on the love life of Birds.
With still warm regards, Yours, Walter
Fähndrich
Brissago, 6 October 2010
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JAN SCHLEGEL
Dear Thomas Meyer,
raise questions and call on the opposition - even you.
The reactions show that the improvisation
Incline are certainly not arrogant underground circle. A lively and diverse
damn niche that white express themselves and content.
You speak of mediation work. That would be great.
as music journalists, more than a short list of best
give of yourself or conjure up yesterday's grave chanting. A small niche
fighting for every line and rarely even still has the space
to write about the content.
worrying!
Is it wise then to feed in much the writing room Sparwütigen?
it needs a "liberation" as "post-free-improvised music"?
Who needs it?
The improviser, remaining and have come to organizers, foundations and listeners make happier, more than ever for a living, high quality scene. Despite an environment that is increasingly Entertainment presumes only on market Criteria assessed.
The Free improvisation will always be in a niche. Not because the musicians are most comfortable in an extinct Indian tribe feel, but they maintain a kind of communication, attitude that they would also feed into policy and economy, it would be different to and fro on the planet.
rather gruss jan flail
Dear Thomas Meyer,
raise questions and call on the opposition - even you.
The reactions show that the improvisation
Incline are certainly not arrogant underground circle. A lively and diverse
damn niche that white express themselves and content.
You speak of mediation work. That would be great.
as music journalists, more than a short list of best
give of yourself or conjure up yesterday's grave chanting. A small niche
fighting for every line and rarely even still has the space
to write about the content.
worrying!
Is it wise then to feed in much the writing room Sparwütigen?
it needs a "liberation" as "post-free-improvised music"?
Who needs it?
The improviser, remaining and have come to organizers, foundations and listeners make happier, more than ever for a living, high quality scene. Despite an environment that is increasingly Entertainment presumes only on market Criteria assessed.
The Free improvisation will always be in a niche. Not because the musicians are most comfortable in an extinct Indian tribe feel, but they maintain a kind of communication, attitude that they would also feed into policy and economy, it would be different to and fro on the planet.
rather gruss jan flail
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ERIC GAUDIBERT
Cher Thomas Meyer,
Votre papier sur l'improvisation et fait du bruit, comme vous conditions Do, provoque la contradiction.
Votre texte ne met pas en doute l'existence de l'improvisation en elle-même: il definite de manière très complète tous les aspects, ainsi that the history of the practice of improvisation.
But the fact of announcing the end of free improvisation, Switzerland, is to give some slight posture ... the judge or the prophet (?).
multiple reactions generated by your text show that the subject is sensitive. All the better if it raises debate and reflection, but I think the improvisers and musicians (in general) have never ceased to "think" their art. What they want now more than ever, fully exist on stages here and abroad.
Yours To ask
Eric Gaudibert
Cher Thomas Meyer,
Votre papier sur l'improvisation et fait du bruit, comme vous conditions Do, provoque la contradiction.
Votre texte ne met pas en doute l'existence de l'improvisation en elle-même: il definite de manière très complète tous les aspects, ainsi that the history of the practice of improvisation.
But the fact of announcing the end of free improvisation, Switzerland, is to give some slight posture ... the judge or the prophet (?).
multiple reactions generated by your text show that the subject is sensitive. All the better if it raises debate and reflection, but I think the improvisers and musicians (in general) have never ceased to "think" their art. What they want now more than ever, fully exist on stages here and abroad.
Yours To ask
Eric Gaudibert
Wednesday, October 6, 2010
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OMRI ZIEGELE
would be the first time how much expertise one needs to make such a big question. The question that follows on the foot, would be that of whether the big question has not already done himself, even dead, or how many times you have to actually explain the Jazz left for dead, the rock roll, the art itself, how many times you have to with pathos in the chest exclaim that this or that is no longer alive, has no more substance out sucks, written to an end-blown entirely of trivial importance? Bird lives! Anybody who asks totalitarian sets itself to the suspicion that it is about his vitality, his vital participation in the events order is not ordered around the best, who asked so cocky, must perceive that the suspect, whom he pronounces, is aimed at him yourself ...
Of course, ask Thomas Meyer, for good questions are more commonly enrichment of culture. But who is bad or wrong questions, no need to wait for an answer. Questions about the deadness of this or that style is obsolete, being old and boring. Music, art, expression is there, alive, where real people deal with your time, your life and your art. Anyone for a lifetime looking for answers to difficult questions being alive as an artist and meaningful. I do not ask why, or does the free, making the bebop, Impressionist she is, I wonder how strong is the relevance of his statement for my time and beyond for all eternity (Amen). Long live rock roll! And for one can come along (or a) and that its tools have brought wherever he wants, because where there are no authoritative styles, no more uniform vanguard more (once militant avant-garde), and living the art in the various contexts, in the concentrations of the possessed, happy coincidences of moments of disparate and overlapping, once irreconcilable, no art form can pay alimony for eternity itself, but always come back boy, new, naturally with the same issues as the elderly, then the answers are already there to mix a new color, a new shine. Long live Satchmo. More free music can not rock and roll, but not the literature or the opera. We live in an age in which all the experiments were made --- let's do it!
***
Johann Sebastian lives! Something else worries me far more than Thomas Meyer's article: A specter is haunting Europe, since the 60's, then heard it yet on the name of free jazz. If today there is only need these (relatively harmless) article to mobilize against, and the resentful as they have been waiting for this favorable moment, call: Down with the Free Music, then reminded me of a the Kleinmutgeist that I believed to be overcome in this country now. If institutions that promote the arts, make withdrawals and now people who write in public, this way (which?) Niederkläffen of music, then ashamed and upset me because this
(Elvis lives!): Improvisation is the beginning and the end of all music, who has already composed, without try and herumzutüfteln, who has been playing really, without knowing the joy that grants one of the open space between two shades of flexible, were listed this or the wind brought thither, and had the grades even 1/32tel apart? --- Long live Albert Ayler!
***
I always wanted to play what's inside of me and what came across the air, Whether you may give it a name or not.
Omri Ziegele, in October 2010
would be the first time how much expertise one needs to make such a big question. The question that follows on the foot, would be that of whether the big question has not already done himself, even dead, or how many times you have to actually explain the Jazz left for dead, the rock roll, the art itself, how many times you have to with pathos in the chest exclaim that this or that is no longer alive, has no more substance out sucks, written to an end-blown entirely of trivial importance? Bird lives! Anybody who asks totalitarian sets itself to the suspicion that it is about his vitality, his vital participation in the events order is not ordered around the best, who asked so cocky, must perceive that the suspect, whom he pronounces, is aimed at him yourself ...
Of course, ask Thomas Meyer, for good questions are more commonly enrichment of culture. But who is bad or wrong questions, no need to wait for an answer. Questions about the deadness of this or that style is obsolete, being old and boring. Music, art, expression is there, alive, where real people deal with your time, your life and your art. Anyone for a lifetime looking for answers to difficult questions being alive as an artist and meaningful. I do not ask why, or does the free, making the bebop, Impressionist she is, I wonder how strong is the relevance of his statement for my time and beyond for all eternity (Amen). Long live rock roll! And for one can come along (or a) and that its tools have brought wherever he wants, because where there are no authoritative styles, no more uniform vanguard more (once militant avant-garde), and living the art in the various contexts, in the concentrations of the possessed, happy coincidences of moments of disparate and overlapping, once irreconcilable, no art form can pay alimony for eternity itself, but always come back boy, new, naturally with the same issues as the elderly, then the answers are already there to mix a new color, a new shine. Long live Satchmo. More free music can not rock and roll, but not the literature or the opera. We live in an age in which all the experiments were made --- let's do it!
***
Johann Sebastian lives! Something else worries me far more than Thomas Meyer's article: A specter is haunting Europe, since the 60's, then heard it yet on the name of free jazz. If today there is only need these (relatively harmless) article to mobilize against, and the resentful as they have been waiting for this favorable moment, call: Down with the Free Music, then reminded me of a the Kleinmutgeist that I believed to be overcome in this country now. If institutions that promote the arts, make withdrawals and now people who write in public, this way (which?) Niederkläffen of music, then ashamed and upset me because this
(Elvis lives!): Improvisation is the beginning and the end of all music, who has already composed, without try and herumzutüfteln, who has been playing really, without knowing the joy that grants one of the open space between two shades of flexible, were listed this or the wind brought thither, and had the grades even 1/32tel apart? --- Long live Albert Ayler!
***
I always wanted to play what's inside of me and what came across the air, Whether you may give it a name or not.
Omri Ziegele, in October 2010
Tuesday, October 5, 2010
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MIRIAM STURZENEGGER
the article "free improvisation is at the end?" By Thomas Meyer and the many reactions of free improvising musicians
As a visual artist, maintains, however, a close contact with a variety of free improvisers, I have experienced the intense discussions among fellow musicians by Thomas Meyers article and its political consequences and the first to see the reactions before I even the Article had even read. I made up for it and found after I was initially very critical, notes that the article has indeed triggered dangerous, such as hires, but very interesting and relevant considerations, which are perhaps not explained clearly enough. I am pleased
on the many responses on the part of the musicians who argue some very sound and are evidence of a committed self-confidence. Personally, I'm reading the article thinking about an issue that would make it clearer what Thomas Meyer really means when he speaks of an end point. This aspect is not explicit enough, unfortunately, the author formulated, which is probably to misunderstanding has performed and given the political entanglements dangerous.
first: The fact that this article of a free criticism on the part of cultural policy, in particular some funding bodies, is reduced to the proposition that free improvisation is at the end (in the sense that nothing more to say) and, subsequently, to justify negative decision is taken on grant applications is unacceptable. (Is tragic also sitting that in the decision-making positions of certain funding bodies who are familiar with the matter about which they have to decide at all, so they must be related in such embarrassing fashion to a critic.)
Very problematic is the second that the author is associated with a Commissioner of the assisted institution, representing a break with the principle of separation of powers. However, I hope that Mr. Meyer does not let this affect by this mandate and I am convinced that he who wrote the article on its own motivation.
I also have to also assume that the author was not aware of how the article would be received in cultural policy, that his words would be such an instrument. That the author with the statement that free improvisation is at the end of this scene, which he has supported for years as a critic, from today to tomorrow will pronouncements of death, I can not imagine simply.
It therefore remains the question: What did the author achieve with this article? And why is so important overlooked: namely, the brisk activity of a diverse scene mention?
I'm not evil intentions, and not think that Meyer wanted to encourage in this way the musicians. The impression left by the reading with me is the rather that Meyer himself as a critic, the question of how appropriate and differentiated in the future, critical and challenging to write and speak about this music is. He wonders where the theoretical discussion is related to practice, or what is today free improvisation. I make the assumption in the room that this article did not mean the end of a musical practice, but the need for new reflection on the basis of the young improvisers.
that this writer as one of the few in this country actively and continuously in the cultural press for the freedom to express improvisation, a critical and multi-voiced discussion misses, I understand very well. I think that a problem of improvisation - is the problematic concept - and the problem of the reception history of Meyer's article. The discourse of free improvisation is actually out, especially among younger generations of musicians, barely, in comparison heavily weighted at about the reflection in the visual arts. Although for concerts, especially in small concert venues such as the out of musicians Mullbau in Lucerne, under the occurring musicians with professional colleagues and outside persons in the audience very intense and even violent, discussions, however, openly and without arrogance about what they hear and beyond . But these calls are not worn down to the field of theory, and the younger musicians discuss among themselves, but are occurring outside rather than speaking or writing to the end. Like the bad experience with theorists underlying lack of practice in the verbal formulation of experience and intentions, or simply lack of interest in the language. In any case, seeming to have a theory from practice, an outward reflection of practice supported by the musicians themselves and thus the active participation in the discourse of education actually are largely missing.
That is one side, on the other are the theorists, critics, under which the discussion of improvisation also held little public - perhaps precisely because an understanding of just demands a lot of participation through listening and speaking about it is not possible by the same language use, in which they talk about compositional principles. Rather, the language for talking about this music to be extended, notwithstanding the musicians must be involved. It is indeed the concepts that shape our ideas and also limit which are sometime too tight or too burdened to be replaced by others, or a redefinition / expansion must undergo.
There lies my opinion, a problem of this article and the discussion that has arisen to do so. The author unfortunately does not differentiate between the different levels at which the concept of free improvisation can be read. The responding musicians have drawn out some very sophisticated and clearly these levels of meaning. Aware of the differences in the discussion to be, is important for the conclusions, the readers of the article draw, and just for the political consequences.
I would now like to briefly distinguish between the articles in anklingenden levels.
On the one made to the historical reference free improvisation, which is then developed as a movement and had great influence on the development of music. As in the visual arts, this was a time when the limits of the Addressing a major concern of the artists was, it was necessary to extend these limits, move to dissolve. This one touched taboos still exist, you inevitably rendered resistance to the bourgeois norms in the cultural understanding, to the academic canon, against Conservative aesthetic ideas. Free improvisation practice or make performance art at that time was a political act, automatically, it was provocative and existential, as it was to enforce the freedom of art to society and to emancipate themselves from the past. Free improvisation was said to violate the bourgeois tastes, so to meet with refusal to be decried as a bad musician, having to fight. Free improvisation was then an ideology for which they gave everything. This is the urgency that was talked about in the article, the revolution was over.
As such, an ideological revolution, this place sure as mentioned. We know that today we can no longer provoke a concert that explores the aesthetic level limits. (Taboos are now elsewhere, such as beyond the political correctness.) Also, provocation today is not the driving force of free improvisation. There is also no reason to do so, the social repression is no longer as strong as ever. Free improvisation as an ideology, as it was then lived, is over.
But the free improvisation is much more than the ideology. As for example, was also spoken by various methods. An operation that is not bound to any particular time or close to a scene. So the musicians who come improvisation as a method To practice from very different areas here, from classical music, jazz, electronics, hip-hop. As a method it can also find other methods are used in combination. And as a method of course it can be taught a bit far, as such, as mentioned, is done at the University of Lucerne. Here, with ways of playing experiments, it is that in the dense curriculum of the course offered a place and hereby Although well with the idea to emphasize the importance of such work as opposed to interpretive play and promote, and not free pulses in a train directing it. This is important in order within our highly structured, performance-oriented universities and professional worlds to maintain an awareness of working in groups, for perception and nonverbal communication.
That the inclusion of improvisation in the university is considered critical, correct and important, because we know that an institutional collection is the best way to weaken rebellious tendencies. But if methods are taught, there remains the improvisational thinking still task of the individual - it can not teach, but do not break even through education.
Besides ideology and method, I see a third form of existence in the free improvisation is still very much alive and contemporary is: the attitude. This is in contrast to the historically dominated ideology, not an explicitly political movement, but a thought, impressed the musicians as people: to their form of confrontation with the perception of space and time and materials to their attention to their pioneering spirit to their need constant fresh start (rightly been in previous texts formulated very nice that an improvisation dies after every game and is born with each new). This position lives incredibly more diverse, with a lot of young musicians, and it continues to develop with time. This attitude have kept the older rabbits, which, like Meyer mentioned, new areas open and productive influences all have contributed.
And precisely because the ideological shackles have now ceased to exist, can the free improvisation as entertainment today develop much broader and more heterogeneous than it was then - it is perhaps in the true sense of freedom, as has become less dogmatic. The freely improvising musicians relate, as mentioned in other essays, most diverse influences with one, does not lead to attenuation of improvisatory thought, but to the constant movement, renewal, diversification and enriching to a heterogeneity. It is true that many musicians now in parallel both in the field of improvisation and composition, and interpretation of Jazz and contemporary music deal that these different activities inspired against each other, but I think less of an artistic inconsistency, but rather a characteristic of our time, for a part because of the stylistic pluralism in art and also of multitasking at work and electronic networking and massive availability at the level of information. It is now easier than improvising musicians have also access to some forms of improvisation, which are traditionally practiced in other nations and so broaden their horizons. I present today a huge curiosity set the tone different material than, and just in response to the cultural and political trends of recent years to categorize all forms of artistic expression, free thinkers develop the desire to evade these clear attributions.
developed in this way on the free improvisation with the times and remains alive, she tries to contact the free and experimental theater, the Spoken Word scene, or for new music - and yes, I am myself as an artist through the narrow exchange was strongly influenced - as visible due to the elimination of ideologies similar aesthetic issues.
Back to Meyer's speech from the end of improvisation and problem of the missing Discourse. Given the previous thoughts to me appears to be a part of the problem lie with the concept, with the way it is used and the unclear declaration of the level of meaning in the text of Meyer.
a clear position that the author would be absolutely necessary to avoid a very active, committed, self-initiative-driven scene misleadingly totzusagen.
But I hear a doubt regarding the terminology of the author and the implied demand for answers from other out: I hear out that Thomas Meyer of the readers, the question is addressed, as today we can speak about the improvisation. I hear his call - both to the musicians as the theorists - for greater discussion of the terms. That he does this is understandable, because as a critic is the terminology to be material, not the sounds are, and thus he will be naturally concerned that they are also on this level does not remain, but critical question: Serve a common expression by that time for a discussion of current practice?
Now you can say as a musician, but that was irrelevant. One such concept to arise sometimes in awe of the younger generation. But these issues have now a new urgency, as well as the music schools in accordance with the educational mandate area research must operate. Thomas Meyer himself is on a research project together with - involved improvising musicians, and as a theorist in the group it is of course strongly on the role of conceptual reflection and positioning - in some cases composing. It would be my opinion, absolutely essential that a process is initiated the concept of education is not only high school intern and out, but has the active scene in the free improvising musicians and positevely influence significantly. Only based on a diverse practice, which may grow to heterogeneous cast a discourse that reflects the diversity of free improvisation meet.
In comparison, it of course in the fine art that artists express themselves verbally to their work can have that they can position themselves in the current context, they develop a language to formulate their ideas. Without this ability, we come as visual artists anywhere, especially today when we mostly manage themselves. This awareness of the reflective level of creativity is not new, have always been artists have also written, discussed, published texts. As a result, the discussion is to terms, their applicability and relevance far more intense, sometimes it moves too much in focus, and hinders the open look. The conceptual reflection also helps to bring current work to earlier, similar trends motivated in terms of which to define and update in a new context of time.
has led the course, with all sharpening of the reflection, even to a flood of well-defined art forms, which in practice are then much too narrow. For instance, they now - perhaps similar to the improvised music - many artists a complex, heterogeneous activity at interfaces between genres, from art and other disciplines and beyond decidedly an assignment, but no longer looking for itself but a way of speaking .
So I hope for the freely improvising musicians that they maintain the openness and activity, that they seek but also the discourse, mitentwickeln and aware of are: free improvisation can - as the ideological notion - perhaps be passed, but as think it remains relevant today. And the free improvisation may also wonder what today its urgency, its social necessity: because this is certainly not remained the same as then, it is no longer in tearing down the boundaries of music, but it is a necessity. I strongly suspect at about the level of attention and concentration for a moment, perhaps a very slight, very slow moment in the ability to engage in something that is not in the outset white can control and not in the fact that only the physical encounter, the uniqueness of coincident spatial, temporal, emotional, mental conditions, certain musical experience allows .
As mentioned at the beginning: that the young free improvisers stand back from a wide discussion rather to Thomas Meyer is probably right. The fact that he won with a single word (!) The existence of this large dynamic scene with young musicians dedicated to persevering the free improvisation, as mentioned, I take it very, very bad. For that he is paving the Way for a disastrous misinterpretation of his article by music funding institutions. I personally visit an average of three to four times a month a concert in Mullbau in Lucerne, here are soloists, duos, trios, I already know and those who provide for me again and again new discoveries, and I was surprised even more every time I hear again again other than what I expected and is aimed at the intensive exchange of ideas that I have as an artist was experiencing with the musicians in the last three years, without in any way.
Thomas Meyer I ask from my heart, and finally, once and future as often as possible to come to the concerts in the Mullbau (recommending the same I told him for the concerts that are organized in Biel, Lausanne, Geneva, etc.), because he will be surprised how much there is to discover it there. And I am happy to discuss with him and the musicians present.
Cause I'm still not sure about what he wanted to achieve with his article, and that would interest me but a lot.
Sincerely
Miriam Sturzenegger
the article "free improvisation is at the end?" By Thomas Meyer and the many reactions of free improvising musicians
As a visual artist, maintains, however, a close contact with a variety of free improvisers, I have experienced the intense discussions among fellow musicians by Thomas Meyers article and its political consequences and the first to see the reactions before I even the Article had even read. I made up for it and found after I was initially very critical, notes that the article has indeed triggered dangerous, such as hires, but very interesting and relevant considerations, which are perhaps not explained clearly enough. I am pleased
on the many responses on the part of the musicians who argue some very sound and are evidence of a committed self-confidence. Personally, I'm reading the article thinking about an issue that would make it clearer what Thomas Meyer really means when he speaks of an end point. This aspect is not explicit enough, unfortunately, the author formulated, which is probably to misunderstanding has performed and given the political entanglements dangerous.
first: The fact that this article of a free criticism on the part of cultural policy, in particular some funding bodies, is reduced to the proposition that free improvisation is at the end (in the sense that nothing more to say) and, subsequently, to justify negative decision is taken on grant applications is unacceptable. (Is tragic also sitting that in the decision-making positions of certain funding bodies who are familiar with the matter about which they have to decide at all, so they must be related in such embarrassing fashion to a critic.)
Very problematic is the second that the author is associated with a Commissioner of the assisted institution, representing a break with the principle of separation of powers. However, I hope that Mr. Meyer does not let this affect by this mandate and I am convinced that he who wrote the article on its own motivation.
I also have to also assume that the author was not aware of how the article would be received in cultural policy, that his words would be such an instrument. That the author with the statement that free improvisation is at the end of this scene, which he has supported for years as a critic, from today to tomorrow will pronouncements of death, I can not imagine simply.
It therefore remains the question: What did the author achieve with this article? And why is so important overlooked: namely, the brisk activity of a diverse scene mention?
I'm not evil intentions, and not think that Meyer wanted to encourage in this way the musicians. The impression left by the reading with me is the rather that Meyer himself as a critic, the question of how appropriate and differentiated in the future, critical and challenging to write and speak about this music is. He wonders where the theoretical discussion is related to practice, or what is today free improvisation. I make the assumption in the room that this article did not mean the end of a musical practice, but the need for new reflection on the basis of the young improvisers.
that this writer as one of the few in this country actively and continuously in the cultural press for the freedom to express improvisation, a critical and multi-voiced discussion misses, I understand very well. I think that a problem of improvisation - is the problematic concept - and the problem of the reception history of Meyer's article. The discourse of free improvisation is actually out, especially among younger generations of musicians, barely, in comparison heavily weighted at about the reflection in the visual arts. Although for concerts, especially in small concert venues such as the out of musicians Mullbau in Lucerne, under the occurring musicians with professional colleagues and outside persons in the audience very intense and even violent, discussions, however, openly and without arrogance about what they hear and beyond . But these calls are not worn down to the field of theory, and the younger musicians discuss among themselves, but are occurring outside rather than speaking or writing to the end. Like the bad experience with theorists underlying lack of practice in the verbal formulation of experience and intentions, or simply lack of interest in the language. In any case, seeming to have a theory from practice, an outward reflection of practice supported by the musicians themselves and thus the active participation in the discourse of education actually are largely missing.
That is one side, on the other are the theorists, critics, under which the discussion of improvisation also held little public - perhaps precisely because an understanding of just demands a lot of participation through listening and speaking about it is not possible by the same language use, in which they talk about compositional principles. Rather, the language for talking about this music to be extended, notwithstanding the musicians must be involved. It is indeed the concepts that shape our ideas and also limit which are sometime too tight or too burdened to be replaced by others, or a redefinition / expansion must undergo.
There lies my opinion, a problem of this article and the discussion that has arisen to do so. The author unfortunately does not differentiate between the different levels at which the concept of free improvisation can be read. The responding musicians have drawn out some very sophisticated and clearly these levels of meaning. Aware of the differences in the discussion to be, is important for the conclusions, the readers of the article draw, and just for the political consequences.
I would now like to briefly distinguish between the articles in anklingenden levels.
On the one made to the historical reference free improvisation, which is then developed as a movement and had great influence on the development of music. As in the visual arts, this was a time when the limits of the Addressing a major concern of the artists was, it was necessary to extend these limits, move to dissolve. This one touched taboos still exist, you inevitably rendered resistance to the bourgeois norms in the cultural understanding, to the academic canon, against Conservative aesthetic ideas. Free improvisation practice or make performance art at that time was a political act, automatically, it was provocative and existential, as it was to enforce the freedom of art to society and to emancipate themselves from the past. Free improvisation was said to violate the bourgeois tastes, so to meet with refusal to be decried as a bad musician, having to fight. Free improvisation was then an ideology for which they gave everything. This is the urgency that was talked about in the article, the revolution was over.
As such, an ideological revolution, this place sure as mentioned. We know that today we can no longer provoke a concert that explores the aesthetic level limits. (Taboos are now elsewhere, such as beyond the political correctness.) Also, provocation today is not the driving force of free improvisation. There is also no reason to do so, the social repression is no longer as strong as ever. Free improvisation as an ideology, as it was then lived, is over.
But the free improvisation is much more than the ideology. As for example, was also spoken by various methods. An operation that is not bound to any particular time or close to a scene. So the musicians who come improvisation as a method To practice from very different areas here, from classical music, jazz, electronics, hip-hop. As a method it can also find other methods are used in combination. And as a method of course it can be taught a bit far, as such, as mentioned, is done at the University of Lucerne. Here, with ways of playing experiments, it is that in the dense curriculum of the course offered a place and hereby Although well with the idea to emphasize the importance of such work as opposed to interpretive play and promote, and not free pulses in a train directing it. This is important in order within our highly structured, performance-oriented universities and professional worlds to maintain an awareness of working in groups, for perception and nonverbal communication.
That the inclusion of improvisation in the university is considered critical, correct and important, because we know that an institutional collection is the best way to weaken rebellious tendencies. But if methods are taught, there remains the improvisational thinking still task of the individual - it can not teach, but do not break even through education.
Besides ideology and method, I see a third form of existence in the free improvisation is still very much alive and contemporary is: the attitude. This is in contrast to the historically dominated ideology, not an explicitly political movement, but a thought, impressed the musicians as people: to their form of confrontation with the perception of space and time and materials to their attention to their pioneering spirit to their need constant fresh start (rightly been in previous texts formulated very nice that an improvisation dies after every game and is born with each new). This position lives incredibly more diverse, with a lot of young musicians, and it continues to develop with time. This attitude have kept the older rabbits, which, like Meyer mentioned, new areas open and productive influences all have contributed.
And precisely because the ideological shackles have now ceased to exist, can the free improvisation as entertainment today develop much broader and more heterogeneous than it was then - it is perhaps in the true sense of freedom, as has become less dogmatic. The freely improvising musicians relate, as mentioned in other essays, most diverse influences with one, does not lead to attenuation of improvisatory thought, but to the constant movement, renewal, diversification and enriching to a heterogeneity. It is true that many musicians now in parallel both in the field of improvisation and composition, and interpretation of Jazz and contemporary music deal that these different activities inspired against each other, but I think less of an artistic inconsistency, but rather a characteristic of our time, for a part because of the stylistic pluralism in art and also of multitasking at work and electronic networking and massive availability at the level of information. It is now easier than improvising musicians have also access to some forms of improvisation, which are traditionally practiced in other nations and so broaden their horizons. I present today a huge curiosity set the tone different material than, and just in response to the cultural and political trends of recent years to categorize all forms of artistic expression, free thinkers develop the desire to evade these clear attributions.
developed in this way on the free improvisation with the times and remains alive, she tries to contact the free and experimental theater, the Spoken Word scene, or for new music - and yes, I am myself as an artist through the narrow exchange was strongly influenced - as visible due to the elimination of ideologies similar aesthetic issues.
Back to Meyer's speech from the end of improvisation and problem of the missing Discourse. Given the previous thoughts to me appears to be a part of the problem lie with the concept, with the way it is used and the unclear declaration of the level of meaning in the text of Meyer.
a clear position that the author would be absolutely necessary to avoid a very active, committed, self-initiative-driven scene misleadingly totzusagen.
But I hear a doubt regarding the terminology of the author and the implied demand for answers from other out: I hear out that Thomas Meyer of the readers, the question is addressed, as today we can speak about the improvisation. I hear his call - both to the musicians as the theorists - for greater discussion of the terms. That he does this is understandable, because as a critic is the terminology to be material, not the sounds are, and thus he will be naturally concerned that they are also on this level does not remain, but critical question: Serve a common expression by that time for a discussion of current practice?
Now you can say as a musician, but that was irrelevant. One such concept to arise sometimes in awe of the younger generation. But these issues have now a new urgency, as well as the music schools in accordance with the educational mandate area research must operate. Thomas Meyer himself is on a research project together with - involved improvising musicians, and as a theorist in the group it is of course strongly on the role of conceptual reflection and positioning - in some cases composing. It would be my opinion, absolutely essential that a process is initiated the concept of education is not only high school intern and out, but has the active scene in the free improvising musicians and positevely influence significantly. Only based on a diverse practice, which may grow to heterogeneous cast a discourse that reflects the diversity of free improvisation meet.
In comparison, it of course in the fine art that artists express themselves verbally to their work can have that they can position themselves in the current context, they develop a language to formulate their ideas. Without this ability, we come as visual artists anywhere, especially today when we mostly manage themselves. This awareness of the reflective level of creativity is not new, have always been artists have also written, discussed, published texts. As a result, the discussion is to terms, their applicability and relevance far more intense, sometimes it moves too much in focus, and hinders the open look. The conceptual reflection also helps to bring current work to earlier, similar trends motivated in terms of which to define and update in a new context of time.
has led the course, with all sharpening of the reflection, even to a flood of well-defined art forms, which in practice are then much too narrow. For instance, they now - perhaps similar to the improvised music - many artists a complex, heterogeneous activity at interfaces between genres, from art and other disciplines and beyond decidedly an assignment, but no longer looking for itself but a way of speaking .
So I hope for the freely improvising musicians that they maintain the openness and activity, that they seek but also the discourse, mitentwickeln and aware of are: free improvisation can - as the ideological notion - perhaps be passed, but as think it remains relevant today. And the free improvisation may also wonder what today its urgency, its social necessity: because this is certainly not remained the same as then, it is no longer in tearing down the boundaries of music, but it is a necessity. I strongly suspect at about the level of attention and concentration for a moment, perhaps a very slight, very slow moment in the ability to engage in something that is not in the outset white can control and not in the fact that only the physical encounter, the uniqueness of coincident spatial, temporal, emotional, mental conditions, certain musical experience allows .
As mentioned at the beginning: that the young free improvisers stand back from a wide discussion rather to Thomas Meyer is probably right. The fact that he won with a single word (!) The existence of this large dynamic scene with young musicians dedicated to persevering the free improvisation, as mentioned, I take it very, very bad. For that he is paving the Way for a disastrous misinterpretation of his article by music funding institutions. I personally visit an average of three to four times a month a concert in Mullbau in Lucerne, here are soloists, duos, trios, I already know and those who provide for me again and again new discoveries, and I was surprised even more every time I hear again again other than what I expected and is aimed at the intensive exchange of ideas that I have as an artist was experiencing with the musicians in the last three years, without in any way.
Thomas Meyer I ask from my heart, and finally, once and future as often as possible to come to the concerts in the Mullbau (recommending the same I told him for the concerts that are organized in Biel, Lausanne, Geneva, etc.), because he will be surprised how much there is to discover it there. And I am happy to discuss with him and the musicians present.
Cause I'm still not sure about what he wanted to achieve with his article, and that would interest me but a lot.
Sincerely
Miriam Sturzenegger
Monday, October 4, 2010
Man Ejaculating In A Woman
LA CAVE 12-NOMADE - GENEVE - SUISSE
Nous suivons survelons-ce débat de loin, très loin, et de prendre réellement Venon connaissance du texte de Monsieur Meyer. Nous sommes
estomaqués! C'est une provocation
complètement Rétrograde sterile, bitter, with light years of the current reality (not that 40 years ago ... thankfully!) and does absolutely nothing. It inconstructif, there is no purpose behind it, what is it for this text? A quarrel falsely intellectual fifties frustrated? You have nothing else to do? Go listen
p.exemple concerts? Of good concerts I mean? The concert stage with the "TODAY-2010"?
Or maybe it nothing happens in Zurich, Bern, or I do not know where you live? Perhaps ultimately there really is no place in your city seriously devoted to improvised practices of TODAY-2010?? Maybe there are places that he has organized concerts, cronyism, gender, the same music 50 times a year? In any case, this kind of text will certainly not help to create true meeting place-making improvised-of-risk-experimental-NO-FONCTIONARISé .... is zero-zero-nada! And frankly, who cares. That's your problem, Mr. Meyer.
Mr. Meyer here, cave12, Geneva.
That makes 21 years that we organize concerts called experimental (label off). We
, TODAY, in 2010, a staggering rate of 150 concerts a year, with more than 2 / 3 are improvised music LIBERTARIAN (sorry, free ...). We have no more suitable place for 3 years. We are nomads, and continue to organize / overpowering improvise a series of concerts of improvised music with artists, musicians from around the world. INTERNATIONALLY RECOGNIZED artists! "Stars" a few times! Encounters with musicians improvised-SWISS happen. Number of speakers. Of Swiss German. But certainly not those in your network, you must believe. Maybe they are too old, outdated, embittered, not including data-flow issues, advanced music today.
We're not sure I understand what you mean ... sound "improvisation free? "A spirit" free improvisation "? A scene" free improvisation "? A school" free improvisation "??????????
Anything. You, the taggers, who want BELIEVE hold the power to appoint, frame, define, decide how it should be, how it should sound, how it should operate, how we must think ....
We do not know you personally, Mr. Meyer and frankly, good for us. Or should completely revise your thinking. We know Derek Bailey, who played with us. Peace to his soul. We know that Peter Brötzmann Machine Gun as always, or more than 68. Roger Turner is known (Bailey generation) who comes to play here in August 2010 with two young improvisers (!!!) French (Arnaud and Alexandre Bellenger River). It was a monumental slap. A concert abrasive enough by itself to burn your paper. An electronic noise-torrent-free-libertarian who would have made you leave the room, certainly, it was so hard. He did not leave the 50 members of the public present in the room. They have encored. They bought tons of records (improvised music, like ...). And that's just one recent example. We have three concerts per week on average (including 2 and half of improvised music). It was actually no time to answer this shit ... was too much work ... you have to do is ask. Read our online program here: www.cave12.org and archives in the same site.
And yes, 1 January 2011, the 16th, we will arrange Insub Meta Orchestra # 2. At the Factory. Rock Hall in Geneva. It's going to make improvised music. With 50 improvising musicians SWISS! A small tip of the iceberg. Hiding the wealth of the improv scene in Switzerland. But Switzerland, Mr. Meyer, who cares. No one likes the country, nations.
past 21 years we work in the field of International Experimental Improvised. Tokyo, Sydney, Berlin, Bern, Zurich, Brussels, Lyon, Barcelona, Oslo, Biel and Geneva ... that's all the same village.
No, Mr. Meyer, improvised music is not ready to die. Far from it. We assure you: it has never been actively present innovative-present. And this is normal. Technological advances, the social-sociological global catastrophe cultural policy in the matter of which that kind of text belongs, GROW artists-improvisers to go farther, push further the possible musical language free! There are sound approaches, we hear today that he would have been impossible to hear there are 20, 10 or 5 years ago. Music, its tone, its tempo, its textures are constantly evolving. As are the ears. It is a real explosion of its kind at this time. That one step further and share in all directions. And so much better! That magma. It is indefinable and that's good! Around the world. And we know something, we assume that 3-organize concert here a week on average. But at the tip. No friends. No one likes the boys. We rejoice, p.exemple to receive the rather young and génialissime Peter Evans again in October here. Trompettistique a revolutionary who played here with Swiss, Jonas Kocher & Laurent Bruttin. We just released a record on our label with the duo Diatribes Geneva Barry Guy and the Monster. Free improvised music and arduous. The disc is almost sold out and sold throughout Europe.
In fact you may be bombarded with examples of the genre.
But we do not have time. It was too much work. Emails to respond to find solutions to continue to hold 150 concerts of improvised music, experimental year in a hostile environment, disgusting and filthy.
Mr. Meyer, we do not thank you for your text. Nobody thanks you for your text.
but thousands of musicians around the world thank the cave12-nomadic continue to fight and cons exist this kind of stance sterile.
You are not helping.
Just to destroy.
But do not worry, improvised music will live on long after your death and with or without you.
We love Chris Corsano, Jerome Noetinger, Antoine Chessex, D'Incise, Nicolas Field, Jacques Demierre Jonas Kocher, Charlie Parker, Lou Reed, John Zorn, Günter Müller, Joke Lenz, Jason Kahn, Norbert Möslang, the Street Festival North, The Oblo, The META INSUB ORCHESTRA, Metamkine, Tomas Korber, Peter Bötzmann Andy & Terrie Ex, Gilles Aubry, Akira Sakata, Otomo Yoshihide, Keiji Haino, the whole scene improvised avant-garde Swiss and international, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc. .... ultimately they are the ones that count, we will remember them ...... not you ...
the cave12-nomadic - Geneva - SWITZERLAND
Nous suivons survelons-ce débat de loin, très loin, et de prendre réellement Venon connaissance du texte de Monsieur Meyer. Nous sommes
estomaqués! C'est une provocation
complètement Rétrograde sterile, bitter, with light years of the current reality (not that 40 years ago ... thankfully!) and does absolutely nothing. It inconstructif, there is no purpose behind it, what is it for this text? A quarrel falsely intellectual fifties frustrated? You have nothing else to do? Go listen
p.exemple concerts? Of good concerts I mean? The concert stage with the "TODAY-2010"?
Or maybe it nothing happens in Zurich, Bern, or I do not know where you live? Perhaps ultimately there really is no place in your city seriously devoted to improvised practices of TODAY-2010?? Maybe there are places that he has organized concerts, cronyism, gender, the same music 50 times a year? In any case, this kind of text will certainly not help to create true meeting place-making improvised-of-risk-experimental-NO-FONCTIONARISé .... is zero-zero-nada! And frankly, who cares. That's your problem, Mr. Meyer.
Mr. Meyer here, cave12, Geneva.
That makes 21 years that we organize concerts called experimental (label off). We
, TODAY, in 2010, a staggering rate of 150 concerts a year, with more than 2 / 3 are improvised music LIBERTARIAN (sorry, free ...). We have no more suitable place for 3 years. We are nomads, and continue to organize / overpowering improvise a series of concerts of improvised music with artists, musicians from around the world. INTERNATIONALLY RECOGNIZED artists! "Stars" a few times! Encounters with musicians improvised-SWISS happen. Number of speakers. Of Swiss German. But certainly not those in your network, you must believe. Maybe they are too old, outdated, embittered, not including data-flow issues, advanced music today.
We're not sure I understand what you mean ... sound "improvisation free? "A spirit" free improvisation "? A scene" free improvisation "? A school" free improvisation "??????????
Anything. You, the taggers, who want BELIEVE hold the power to appoint, frame, define, decide how it should be, how it should sound, how it should operate, how we must think ....
We do not know you personally, Mr. Meyer and frankly, good for us. Or should completely revise your thinking. We know Derek Bailey, who played with us. Peace to his soul. We know that Peter Brötzmann Machine Gun as always, or more than 68. Roger Turner is known (Bailey generation) who comes to play here in August 2010 with two young improvisers (!!!) French (Arnaud and Alexandre Bellenger River). It was a monumental slap. A concert abrasive enough by itself to burn your paper. An electronic noise-torrent-free-libertarian who would have made you leave the room, certainly, it was so hard. He did not leave the 50 members of the public present in the room. They have encored. They bought tons of records (improvised music, like ...). And that's just one recent example. We have three concerts per week on average (including 2 and half of improvised music). It was actually no time to answer this shit ... was too much work ... you have to do is ask. Read our online program here: www.cave12.org and archives in the same site.
And yes, 1 January 2011, the 16th, we will arrange Insub Meta Orchestra # 2. At the Factory. Rock Hall in Geneva. It's going to make improvised music. With 50 improvising musicians SWISS! A small tip of the iceberg. Hiding the wealth of the improv scene in Switzerland. But Switzerland, Mr. Meyer, who cares. No one likes the country, nations.
past 21 years we work in the field of International Experimental Improvised. Tokyo, Sydney, Berlin, Bern, Zurich, Brussels, Lyon, Barcelona, Oslo, Biel and Geneva ... that's all the same village.
No, Mr. Meyer, improvised music is not ready to die. Far from it. We assure you: it has never been actively present innovative-present. And this is normal. Technological advances, the social-sociological global catastrophe cultural policy in the matter of which that kind of text belongs, GROW artists-improvisers to go farther, push further the possible musical language free! There are sound approaches, we hear today that he would have been impossible to hear there are 20, 10 or 5 years ago. Music, its tone, its tempo, its textures are constantly evolving. As are the ears. It is a real explosion of its kind at this time. That one step further and share in all directions. And so much better! That magma. It is indefinable and that's good! Around the world. And we know something, we assume that 3-organize concert here a week on average. But at the tip. No friends. No one likes the boys. We rejoice, p.exemple to receive the rather young and génialissime Peter Evans again in October here. Trompettistique a revolutionary who played here with Swiss, Jonas Kocher & Laurent Bruttin. We just released a record on our label with the duo Diatribes Geneva Barry Guy and the Monster. Free improvised music and arduous. The disc is almost sold out and sold throughout Europe.
In fact you may be bombarded with examples of the genre.
But we do not have time. It was too much work. Emails to respond to find solutions to continue to hold 150 concerts of improvised music, experimental year in a hostile environment, disgusting and filthy.
Mr. Meyer, we do not thank you for your text. Nobody thanks you for your text.
but thousands of musicians around the world thank the cave12-nomadic continue to fight and cons exist this kind of stance sterile.
You are not helping.
Just to destroy.
But do not worry, improvised music will live on long after your death and with or without you.
We love Chris Corsano, Jerome Noetinger, Antoine Chessex, D'Incise, Nicolas Field, Jacques Demierre Jonas Kocher, Charlie Parker, Lou Reed, John Zorn, Günter Müller, Joke Lenz, Jason Kahn, Norbert Möslang, the Street Festival North, The Oblo, The META INSUB ORCHESTRA, Metamkine, Tomas Korber, Peter Bötzmann Andy & Terrie Ex, Gilles Aubry, Akira Sakata, Otomo Yoshihide, Keiji Haino, the whole scene improvised avant-garde Swiss and international, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc. .... ultimately they are the ones that count, we will remember them ...... not you ...
the cave12-nomadic - Geneva - SWITZERLAND
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PIERRE EGGIMANN
About the article "Ist die freie Improvisation am Ende?" Thomas Meyer, published in Dissonance, # 111.
Dear Sir Thomas Meyer,
I do not know you and obviously it is the same for you. I am one of the musicians insignificant "obscure" improvisers that you think are dying everywhere on the Swiss scene. What a picture, we brush you there?
Colleagues, the son of their texts have, I must say, done a great job to return to its rightful place your diatribe. Not only does it blend incompatible things, but Assen information completely false and inaccurate and shows your deep ignorance of the Swiss scene of improvisation in the taxing of dying, as I currently see a renaissance of this powerful scene in recent years . For cons, I must say it is not recognized as well as major events celebrities, such as the Montreux Jazz Festival, Lugano, Bern, the Paleo or Gurten. While glitz and glitter sparkle to the sound of bubbles of champagne VIP spree in major festivals, a very active underground organizes and live extraordinary creativity with the passionate commitment of human and exciting.
Ignore, for example, the work done by the collective of the Rue du Nord in Lausanne, The Cave 12 and the AMR in Geneva, the CBA in La Chaux-de-Fonds, the musician scene like Biel, Lucien Dubuis (known to New York), Lionel Gafner, Jonas Kocher (every thirty years or less) and the Swiss-Balkan Creative Music Project is either incompetent or dishonest disinformation. In both cases, because I see no other you have nothing to do either in a national cultural funding agency, or in a newspaper talking about new music. And in this case, Dear Sir, I also have the honor to return the favor by saying that honest journalism is dead! At least that's the responsible journalism!
As an educator and musician improvising long, I just want to disassemble your great concept, dating back over thirty years, which sometimes resurfaces stating that improvisation can not be taught. Any self-respecting musician, by definition knows that learning music is more of an accompaniment to the discovery of one's own expression students a true learning "tough." This is true for improvisation as well as for the music written. This educational support is essential but not alone "making" a musician. There are two or three centuries, music schools and conservatories of music and the music did not exist was not recognized as an art but a craft that was handed down from master to student. From where they are, the great composers such as Bach, Beethoven or Mozart would say certainly by looking at our current system of music education that music can not be taught in schools, and they speak not only of improvisation, but music in general. No serious musician teacher can not claim to bring the art of music a student, the music is written or improvised, for approach learning music, not to inculcate blow the Penal Code or by heart all the theorems of mathematics. The main action of the educator is to show a path to become an art music, to capture this form of expression, to understand the source and destination and at the very end to appropriate the various elements to forge its own unique expression. "Learning to learn, get the student taught himself, he will become self-taught by "in the words of Pierre Boulez.
When Denis Beuret in his text-reply says" She (improvised music) is renewed through each musician through the uniqueness of each individual, "I say that this applies to the written music as well. Indeed, the teacher can only accompany a student to his own musical expression, he could never teach him the" Music ". And if as you say, improvisation is not learned in High School, written music is not learned either in the High Schools. To show no High school whether classical or jazz would never qualify as a musician leaving diploma, find work and make a career as a concert artist, composer or brilliant. Being able to play a Beethoven sonata, the two books by heart of Bach's Well-Tempered Clavier and so on, obviously not enough to declare a concert pianist. Here is the problem. A musician coming out of HEM is not a musician but he has all the means in hand for the future. Similarly an improviser coming out of a course of any school of improvisation is not an improviser, but potentially has the means to become its future commitment and practice. In fact, the ultimate step is his. That all musicians know, improvisers or not know and your tirade is completely offset a worrisome mediocrity. By cons, as already stated by my colleagues, it helps seriously "ghettoization" yet more musicians and artists belonging to the free jazz in Switzerland.
Another observation that makes me sad: You pretend journalist and musicologist, titles you have probably been established there are very, very, very long ... Indeed, a number of research works in many countries, speak with intelligence and plurality of the place of improvisation including free improvisation. Many researchers already in the early eighties have outlined the challenges of teaching improvisation and practice. What you write about this is appalling and properly belongs to a totally exceeded that denies number of books and stories seriously discussing this with humanitude, wit and intellectual rigor. I refer to this subject the writings of Jacques Siron or Denis Levaillant which, among many others, have both contributed to this beautiful old debate. But I guess according to "St. Thomas Meyer" these people do not exist. For
Finally, I just re-quote what Jacques Demierre said in his response below: "To say that improvisation is dead is like saying that music is dead!".
Dear Sir Thomas Meyer, if you think about changing careers, I urge you, the Undertakers you go very well. A word to the wise ...
About the article "Ist die freie Improvisation am Ende?" Thomas Meyer, published in Dissonance, # 111.
Dear Sir Thomas Meyer,
I do not know you and obviously it is the same for you. I am one of the musicians insignificant "obscure" improvisers that you think are dying everywhere on the Swiss scene. What a picture, we brush you there?
Colleagues, the son of their texts have, I must say, done a great job to return to its rightful place your diatribe. Not only does it blend incompatible things, but Assen information completely false and inaccurate and shows your deep ignorance of the Swiss scene of improvisation in the taxing of dying, as I currently see a renaissance of this powerful scene in recent years . For cons, I must say it is not recognized as well as major events celebrities, such as the Montreux Jazz Festival, Lugano, Bern, the Paleo or Gurten. While glitz and glitter sparkle to the sound of bubbles of champagne VIP spree in major festivals, a very active underground organizes and live extraordinary creativity with the passionate commitment of human and exciting.
Ignore, for example, the work done by the collective of the Rue du Nord in Lausanne, The Cave 12 and the AMR in Geneva, the CBA in La Chaux-de-Fonds, the musician scene like Biel, Lucien Dubuis (known to New York), Lionel Gafner, Jonas Kocher (every thirty years or less) and the Swiss-Balkan Creative Music Project is either incompetent or dishonest disinformation. In both cases, because I see no other you have nothing to do either in a national cultural funding agency, or in a newspaper talking about new music. And in this case, Dear Sir, I also have the honor to return the favor by saying that honest journalism is dead! At least that's the responsible journalism!
As an educator and musician improvising long, I just want to disassemble your great concept, dating back over thirty years, which sometimes resurfaces stating that improvisation can not be taught. Any self-respecting musician, by definition knows that learning music is more of an accompaniment to the discovery of one's own expression students a true learning "tough." This is true for improvisation as well as for the music written. This educational support is essential but not alone "making" a musician. There are two or three centuries, music schools and conservatories of music and the music did not exist was not recognized as an art but a craft that was handed down from master to student. From where they are, the great composers such as Bach, Beethoven or Mozart would say certainly by looking at our current system of music education that music can not be taught in schools, and they speak not only of improvisation, but music in general. No serious musician teacher can not claim to bring the art of music a student, the music is written or improvised, for approach learning music, not to inculcate blow the Penal Code or by heart all the theorems of mathematics. The main action of the educator is to show a path to become an art music, to capture this form of expression, to understand the source and destination and at the very end to appropriate the various elements to forge its own unique expression. "Learning to learn, get the student taught himself, he will become self-taught by "in the words of Pierre Boulez.
When Denis Beuret in his text-reply says" She (improvised music) is renewed through each musician through the uniqueness of each individual, "I say that this applies to the written music as well. Indeed, the teacher can only accompany a student to his own musical expression, he could never teach him the" Music ". And if as you say, improvisation is not learned in High School, written music is not learned either in the High Schools. To show no High school whether classical or jazz would never qualify as a musician leaving diploma, find work and make a career as a concert artist, composer or brilliant. Being able to play a Beethoven sonata, the two books by heart of Bach's Well-Tempered Clavier and so on, obviously not enough to declare a concert pianist. Here is the problem. A musician coming out of HEM is not a musician but he has all the means in hand for the future. Similarly an improviser coming out of a course of any school of improvisation is not an improviser, but potentially has the means to become its future commitment and practice. In fact, the ultimate step is his. That all musicians know, improvisers or not know and your tirade is completely offset a worrisome mediocrity. By cons, as already stated by my colleagues, it helps seriously "ghettoization" yet more musicians and artists belonging to the free jazz in Switzerland.
Another observation that makes me sad: You pretend journalist and musicologist, titles you have probably been established there are very, very, very long ... Indeed, a number of research works in many countries, speak with intelligence and plurality of the place of improvisation including free improvisation. Many researchers already in the early eighties have outlined the challenges of teaching improvisation and practice. What you write about this is appalling and properly belongs to a totally exceeded that denies number of books and stories seriously discussing this with humanitude, wit and intellectual rigor. I refer to this subject the writings of Jacques Siron or Denis Levaillant which, among many others, have both contributed to this beautiful old debate. But I guess according to "St. Thomas Meyer" these people do not exist. For
Finally, I just re-quote what Jacques Demierre said in his response below: "To say that improvisation is dead is like saying that music is dead!".
Dear Sir Thomas Meyer, if you think about changing careers, I urge you, the Undertakers you go very well. A word to the wise ...
Saturday, October 2, 2010
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ANDREAS KUNZ
Freie Improvisation In meinem Leben heute
als Musiker ist die Beschäftigung mit freier Improvisation
absolut zentral geworden. Warum ist das so? Als
klassisch ausgebildet Violinist bin ich erstmal vor 4 Jahren (2006) im Rahmen
of Pflichtfachunterrichts an der Hochschule of Music in Basel came across this
way of making music. As an interested, critical musicians and
contemporary I have after some initial skepticism, the benefits of this
making music appreciate more and more learned, and finally graduated in Europe
(unfortunately) unique Master's program, which has Walter Ensign
built in the most meritorious manner for years . But
What are the advantages I mentioned? I will mention the most important
.
- what making music is such a radical way, by listening?
- Where else but in the free improvisation, a musician in
this pure form with the original questions musical Action to deal?
- Where else is this incredible freedom of
self-determination, this open space in which anything seems possible? After
have improvisation concerts I ever again have the opportunity to lead with
audiences with highly interesting and stimulating discussions.
The often passionate responses (not only for specialists) show me that
free improvisation arrives and gives the audience the most interesting (hearing) encouragement.
Free Improvisation believe to be reduced to material for questions I missed.
is of course the sound research is an important aspect in the work
an improviser. For much more important I think, however, as finally
is handled with the material. By the fundamental and continuous
research, this type of music making on the one hand and allows
forces on the other hand again, is not possible at a standstill. Each
improviser has its own biography, an independent
is personality. Hence the use of the material, the view,
will always be totally subjective and new.
Langenthal, 1 October 2010
Andreas Kunz,
violinist, Specialised Master of Music Performance in Free Improvisation
Freie Improvisation In meinem Leben heute
als Musiker ist die Beschäftigung mit freier Improvisation
absolut zentral geworden. Warum ist das so? Als
klassisch ausgebildet Violinist bin ich erstmal vor 4 Jahren (2006) im Rahmen
of Pflichtfachunterrichts an der Hochschule of Music in Basel came across this
way of making music. As an interested, critical musicians and
contemporary I have after some initial skepticism, the benefits of this
making music appreciate more and more learned, and finally graduated in Europe
(unfortunately) unique Master's program, which has Walter Ensign
built in the most meritorious manner for years . But
What are the advantages I mentioned? I will mention the most important
.
- what making music is such a radical way, by listening?
- Where else but in the free improvisation, a musician in
this pure form with the original questions musical Action to deal?
- Where else is this incredible freedom of
self-determination, this open space in which anything seems possible? After
have improvisation concerts I ever again have the opportunity to lead with
audiences with highly interesting and stimulating discussions.
The often passionate responses (not only for specialists) show me that
free improvisation arrives and gives the audience the most interesting (hearing) encouragement.
Free Improvisation believe to be reduced to material for questions I missed.
is of course the sound research is an important aspect in the work
an improviser. For much more important I think, however, as finally
is handled with the material. By the fundamental and continuous
research, this type of music making on the one hand and allows
forces on the other hand again, is not possible at a standstill. Each
improviser has its own biography, an independent
is personality. Hence the use of the material, the view,
will always be totally subjective and new.
Langenthal, 1 October 2010
Andreas Kunz,
violinist, Specialised Master of Music Performance in Free Improvisation
Friday, October 1, 2010
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DENIS BEURET
Improvised music is dead?
music, as art of the time, dying at the end of each interpretation of a work, whether it be written or improvised changes nothing. Once we finished playing, the music continues to live, except in our memories, unless it is recorded or transcribed from memory or by listening to a recording, which case, we can revive him momentarily, the time to listen to a disc or an interpretation, not longer.
The music is not static unlike a work of art, more or less immortal, but only for a short lives, the time it played any more. It is therefore difficult to speculate on the value of music.
Improvised music is music for all music from an improvisation, even if it sometimes comes down to improvise a pattern of some notes and then to construct on this basis, a whole symphony.
Improvisation is equal to the inspiration and everybody understands that it is not without inspiration from musical work worthy of the name.
Improvisation is experimental and it allows you to find new musical language that will be fixed or not and codified by the writing and composition.
Improvisation is life. Life is improvisation. All our lives we improvise our lives.
Many composers of the past have been renowned improvisers, Bach, Mozart, Beethoven, Schubert, Saint-Saens, Chopin, Messiaen, ... to name a few.
Many improvisers are current composers and there is no reason to doubt the relationship between these two musical acts such as improvisation and composition, or to raise any of these acts in- top other. The real-time composing improvisers, composers Delayed. The rest is just pointless and unhealthy quarrel.
Writing music, be it remembered, was invented to serve as a reminder to musicians, so they remember tunes, can record their musical ideas and share their knowledge with other musicians .
claim that improvisation is dead is like saying that music is dead!
A music died when no one's cheek, but she can be reborn as a musician the replays.
Music Bach has hardly been played more since his death (that of Bach, not her music) until the Romantic era. Was she dead so far?
Many early music compositions were revived in the twentieth century when they were, for the most part been forgotten for centuries and no critic or music journalist had predicted their resurrection.
One characteristic of our times is that we play more music of composers who died that living composers, apart from composers of music entertainment. This observation leads
two questions: Why
music by composers who died is it more than performed living composers?
How is it that the composers of music entertainment that are most frequently performed composers died over 50 years?
The reasons are unfortunately more financial and aesthetic:
Contemporary composers are protected by copyright and cultural promoters are reluctant to take risks in programming contemporary composer, particularly since they must pay charges of up to 10% of the total budget. They prefer Composers Programme "proven" and whose works are not protected. They are a dual economy.
industry music entertainment is based on patterns that are, by definition, ephemeral.
and improvised music in all this?
Improvised music is not a marketable product: You can, of course, concert recordings, burn discs and flood the market with discs of improvised music, but it is totally contrary to the spirit of improvisation reproduced identically, at a concert, an improvisation passed.
Now the music industry is formatted using the same models as the industry itself:
reproduce identically and inexpensively deliver products to please many and whose life is as short as possible . Our consumer society is based on this scheme and we have not yet measured the extent of environmental damage and human generated by this mad rush for profits. Global warming will have consequences that begins that no one can imagine.
and improvised music in all this? By refusing
to enter the industrial plan, improvised music is still and always a protest movement, as in the '60s, nothing has changed!
Improvised music has simply adapted by adding new components such as the use of electronics or technology and contemporary languages, themselves often improvised from experiments. The feedback loop thus formed and the mutual adaptability of improvisation and composition demonstrates the vitality of contemporary music, because as everyone knows:
Adaptability est le propre des organismes vivants!
CQFD
Denis Beuret
Ministre Suisse de la Culture
Trombonist, improviser, compositeur, Développeur ...
Membre Comité: SMS, WIM Bern, 11 + Lausanne
Membres de: ASM, USDAM, SSRS, AMR, live in Vevey, spiral, Nouveau Monde, ...
Administrateur de l'Association Nouvelles Créations
Improvised music is dead?
music, as art of the time, dying at the end of each interpretation of a work, whether it be written or improvised changes nothing. Once we finished playing, the music continues to live, except in our memories, unless it is recorded or transcribed from memory or by listening to a recording, which case, we can revive him momentarily, the time to listen to a disc or an interpretation, not longer.
The music is not static unlike a work of art, more or less immortal, but only for a short lives, the time it played any more. It is therefore difficult to speculate on the value of music.
Improvised music is music for all music from an improvisation, even if it sometimes comes down to improvise a pattern of some notes and then to construct on this basis, a whole symphony.
Improvisation is equal to the inspiration and everybody understands that it is not without inspiration from musical work worthy of the name.
Improvisation is experimental and it allows you to find new musical language that will be fixed or not and codified by the writing and composition.
Improvisation is life. Life is improvisation. All our lives we improvise our lives.
Many composers of the past have been renowned improvisers, Bach, Mozart, Beethoven, Schubert, Saint-Saens, Chopin, Messiaen, ... to name a few.
Many improvisers are current composers and there is no reason to doubt the relationship between these two musical acts such as improvisation and composition, or to raise any of these acts in- top other. The real-time composing improvisers, composers Delayed. The rest is just pointless and unhealthy quarrel.
Writing music, be it remembered, was invented to serve as a reminder to musicians, so they remember tunes, can record their musical ideas and share their knowledge with other musicians .
claim that improvisation is dead is like saying that music is dead!
A music died when no one's cheek, but she can be reborn as a musician the replays.
Music Bach has hardly been played more since his death (that of Bach, not her music) until the Romantic era. Was she dead so far?
Many early music compositions were revived in the twentieth century when they were, for the most part been forgotten for centuries and no critic or music journalist had predicted their resurrection.
One characteristic of our times is that we play more music of composers who died that living composers, apart from composers of music entertainment. This observation leads
two questions: Why
music by composers who died is it more than performed living composers?
How is it that the composers of music entertainment that are most frequently performed composers died over 50 years?
The reasons are unfortunately more financial and aesthetic:
Contemporary composers are protected by copyright and cultural promoters are reluctant to take risks in programming contemporary composer, particularly since they must pay charges of up to 10% of the total budget. They prefer Composers Programme "proven" and whose works are not protected. They are a dual economy.
industry music entertainment is based on patterns that are, by definition, ephemeral.
and improvised music in all this?
Improvised music is not a marketable product: You can, of course, concert recordings, burn discs and flood the market with discs of improvised music, but it is totally contrary to the spirit of improvisation reproduced identically, at a concert, an improvisation passed.
Now the music industry is formatted using the same models as the industry itself:
reproduce identically and inexpensively deliver products to please many and whose life is as short as possible . Our consumer society is based on this scheme and we have not yet measured the extent of environmental damage and human generated by this mad rush for profits. Global warming will have consequences that begins that no one can imagine.
and improvised music in all this? By refusing
to enter the industrial plan, improvised music is still and always a protest movement, as in the '60s, nothing has changed!
Improvised music has simply adapted by adding new components such as the use of electronics or technology and contemporary languages, themselves often improvised from experiments. The feedback loop thus formed and the mutual adaptability of improvisation and composition demonstrates the vitality of contemporary music, because as everyone knows:
Adaptability est le propre des organismes vivants!
CQFD
Denis Beuret
Ministre Suisse de la Culture
Trombonist, improviser, compositeur, Développeur ...
Membre Comité: SMS, WIM Bern, 11 + Lausanne
Membres de: ASM, USDAM, SSRS, AMR, live in Vevey, spiral, Nouveau Monde, ...
Administrateur de l'Association Nouvelles Créations
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